Author Topic: Mean Machine (Read 3278 times)

FastTracker33 · « **on:** August 09, 2006, 10:29:37 AM »

hey everyone i'll be getting my Meanie tommorow, and it's already drilled, but i had a quick question...

What would a 4x2 layout do in reaction wise? With an Extra hole on PAP drilled about 3 inches deep?

My PAP is 5 OVER and 1/4 UP, what would this layout do for a Meanie?
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Re-Evolution · « **Reply #1 on:** August 09, 2006, 07:31:16 PM »

By 4 x 2 I am asuming you mean Pin x CG if so what is the Pin x MB which is more accurate to what the expected reaction is. Especially when you consider the CG could be misaligned in relation to the Pin to MB line.
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FastTracker33 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 09, 2006, 07:33:39 PM »

well that's all my driller said to me, but he also said to keep the pin lower, below the finger plane though.. if that helps?
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Re-Evolution · « **Reply #3 on:** August 09, 2006, 08:16:37 PM »

Assuming the Pin, CG and MB are aligned I would expect it to be fairly early and smooth. A forward roll drill on a Track drill sheet. I suspect it is around a 30Â° drilling which will be good on heavier and longer patterns.
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Re-Evolution · « **Reply #4 on:** August 09, 2006, 08:23:35 PM »

What kind of reaction did you say you were looking for when you talked to the driller.
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FastTracker33 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 09, 2006, 08:26:04 PM »

Thanks Rev-O,
On a scale of 1-10 How Early would it be?
On a scale of 1-10 How does it hook? (smoothest to sharpest)
On a scale of 1-10 What is the overall hook?
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Edited on 8/9/2006 8:24 PM

C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #6 on:** August 09, 2006, 10:33:30 PM »

Brian,

I would need to know in the 4x2.....what does the 2 pin point? The CG location from PAP or the MB location from PAP?

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FastTracker33 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 09, 2006, 10:36:28 PM »

im going to find out that info tommorow, for everyone
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Xfest · « **Reply #8 on:** August 09, 2006, 11:46:54 PM »

here is a good drill for the ball - no weight hole included.

great reaction, smooth and long, and a tremendous backend to the pocket.

http://img414.imageshack.us/img414/8939/pic3yl3.jpg

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Re-Evolution · « **Reply #9 on:** August 10, 2006, 12:24:52 AM »

Carl
I got to thinking about it after I asked and it has to be Pin and CG cause you can't have a 4 x 2 (pin x MB). With a 4" pin to PAP the closest you could have the MB is 2.75" which would be a 0Â° drilling. However the CG distance tells us nothing without knowing the pin to CG distance and the pin/cg/MB alignment.
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BeansProShop · « **Reply #10 on:** August 10, 2006, 06:57:31 PM »

Hello fellas.... I am Brian's driller that made the suggestion. 4x2 is pin and cg. It would also be close to a 4" pin and putting the MB on the VAL. He was looking for a much smoother reaction than the Action Packed I drilled for strong backend. Thanks beans
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FastTracker33 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 10, 2006, 07:18:51 PM »

thanks a lot Beans!
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FastTracker33 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 10, 2006, 07:21:58 PM »

BTW Beans can you help me out on how this reaction will be on how my Mean Machine is drilled now?
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/TheOne9110/HPIM0685.jpg
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C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #13 on:** August 10, 2006, 10:18:30 PM »

quote:
Hello fellas.... I am Brian's driller that made the suggestion. 4x2 is pin and cg. It would also be close to a 4" pin and putting the MB on the VAL. He was looking for a much smoother reaction than the Action Packed I drilled for strong backend. Thanks beans

Beans,

On a ball like the Mean Machine (and I am aware that he has the ball now and knows how it is drilled), wouldn't you want to let them know the layout PIN to PAP and MB to PAP (considering the cg location on asymmetricals is irrelevant)?
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FastTracker33 · « **Reply #14 on:** August 11, 2006, 11:13:48 PM »

quote:
quote:
Hello fellas.... I am Brian's driller that made the suggestion. 4x2 is pin and cg. It would also be close to a 4" pin and putting the MB on the VAL. He was looking for a much smoother reaction than the Action Packed I drilled for strong backend. Thanks beans

Beans,

On a ball like the Mean Machine (and I am aware that he has the ball now and knows how it is drilled), wouldn't you want to let them know the layout PIN to PAP and MB to PAP (considering the cg location on asymmetricals is irrelevant)?
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Hey Carl i Pmed Beans and he should be posting here soon, but anyways..

I saw the Mean Machine in Rick's video of it, and that reaction he gets is VERY similiar to the reaction i "wanted", but maybe with a more harder arc (just a tad bit more, just a tad). Is there anyway i can drill a Mean to do this for me?
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