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ccrider

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Mean Machine Dead??
« on: January 10, 2008, 09:00:27 AM »
I have a mean machine drilled pin under the bridge. For the last several weeks I have noticed it barely hooks on THS. After league Tuesday night, I pulled it out because the lanes were really dry in the heads and on the outside. I played straight down 12 and threw 9 in a row, ended up shooting a 257. The ball carried well as always, but barely hooked. Has anyone else had a mean machine die.

I am thinking about hot water bathing the ball, but may just use it as my dry lane ball.

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Re: Mean Machine Dead??
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2008, 05:09:16 PM »
I think I will. Started to throw it into the old dishwasher I just set up in the garage, cut the water on and realized I had burst pipe during the freeze last week.


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Re: Mean Machine Dead??
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2008, 05:50:21 PM »
Which is the bigger bummer - the pipe or the ball?

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Re: Mean Machine Dead??
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2008, 08:37:52 PM »
If it didnt hook on the dry lanes you speak of it sound more like roll out to me rather then it not being able to hook. Your THS might be to dry to start with to have it work right. I have a mean machine and I cant use mine on anything less then heavy oil. The last time I was able to use it was at a mix doubles tourny over the summer on synth. lanes.
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Re: Mean Machine Dead??
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2008, 08:55:11 PM »
i have a mean machine and it really does need oil. its the perfect compliment to my rising.if my rising is leaving ten pins i pick up the mean and vice/versa. the meany will not hook without oil and out hooks the rising in oil.
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Re: Mean Machine Dead??
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2008, 09:51:27 AM »
Hey CC,

If your oil density is not heavy or dense enough, the Mean can or sometimes will roll thru it very evenly almost giving the appearance of a large/heavy particle reaction (yet the cover is still reactive).

Nano was a larger pore reactive base/cover which did require a fair amount of oil in the front part of the lane in order for it to retain some energy for the backend motion we all seek.

I suggest trying it again on a heavier condition and see if you don't get the backend reaction again.  It is always possible however that the ball may be a little oil soaked which may require some maintenance.  Hope this helps explain some...
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Re: Mean Machine Dead??
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2008, 04:44:11 PM »
I will try the ball before the heads dry up. I can tell you that I love the way the ball carries but the last two times I have pulled it out, my arsenal artillery and power machine easily out hooked it. Go figure.

The ball seem to almost be skidding most of the way down the lane, which is saying a lots for me since I have a lots of forward roll in my go to release.


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Re: Mean Machine Dead??
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2008, 01:59:07 PM »
the same thing happened to mine. my cure was 2 or 3 good hot baths, and only taking it out on some true oil. afterwards, ball hooked on any heavy oil i found. good luck!
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Re: Mean Machine Dead??
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2008, 03:25:07 PM »
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the same thing happened to mine. my cure was 2 or 3 good hot baths, and only taking it out on some true oil. afterwards, ball hooked on any heavy oil i found. good luck!
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Tried hot water bath. Used last night, bowled after ladies league. No discernable difference. Not much oil left in the heads but some carry down. I will use it Tuesday on our fresh shot and see if the bath helped.


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Re: Mean Machine Dead??
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2008, 06:20:01 PM »
i clean mine with a green scotch brite bad to keep the surface rough.
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Re: Mean Machine Dead??
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2008, 05:49:21 PM »
Guys, Use Clean and dull to keep the cover clean after every use. I have never seen a ball die. That only happens because people do not take care of their covers......
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Re: Mean Machine Dead??
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2008, 06:03:41 PM »
the meanie needs heavy oil to work well,anything less and mine rolls flat.
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Re: Mean Machine Dead??
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2008, 09:49:54 PM »
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the same thing happened to mine. my cure was 2 or 3 good hot baths, and only taking it out on some true oil. afterwards, ball hooked on any heavy oil i found. good luck!
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Tried hot water bath. Used last night, bowled after ladies league. No discernable difference. Not much oil left in the heads but some carry down. I will use it Tuesday on our fresh shot and see if the bath helped.




If you didnt have much much head oil the mean will never save any engery for the mids or backend. Now if you use it on heavy oil and still see nothing. I say use power wash and use it heavy on the ball. I cleaned my suggested rising with Legends cleaner in the shop the one night and it killed the backend on the suggested. It turned it into a pure rolling ball. However after about a month of not usinging it much other then to see the reaction coming from it. I got it back to working just as it did OOB. In fact I got the reaction back so well that it helped me and a buddy place 3rd in a local bakers tourny. Powerwash when used over time and enough used can and will change the overall hook of the ball and you will really see it in the backends. My suggested Rising is back to OOB strength. So if you really are seeing your MM not hooking use Powerwash.
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Re: Mean Machine Dead??
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2008, 02:40:37 PM »
I generally use powerwash after each set. It seems to do a good job in leaving the ball tacky.

I also use clean n dull to deep clean.

I used the meanie on a fresh shot Tuesday. The hot water bath worked. I used it the first game and then had to put it up. Went to my power machine and it worked excellent except for user error.

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Re: Mean Machine Dead??
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2008, 11:32:56 AM »
My mean machine will die if I throw it inside second arrow.  But if I get it straight up the outside of first arrow it bites hard on the backend.  I use both power wash and clean and tacky regularly.  

Last year on the Shark pattern it worked really well.  Bowled a couple 240's with it.  That was over the inside of fourth arrow.  Played it really deep.