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icetink

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Med-Med/Light oil ball help please
« on: January 30, 2005, 06:12:25 AM »
Dear 'anyone who wishes to help',
I currently have quite a strong set of balls:

Animal - surface out of the box, drilled 4.5x3.5 (pin under ring)
Phenom - resurfaced to 1500-grit, drilled 4.5x4.5 (pin under ring)
Rule - surface out of the box, drilled 4.5x3.5 (pin under ring)
Super Power Pearl - wetsanded to 800-grit, Ebonite's particle polish applied, drilled approximately 3 5/8 x 3 5/8 (pin under and to the right of ring)
Polyester spare ball

I find that I have quite some difficulty keeping the balls on the right side of the lane as soon as the middle of game 2 and so on; they seem to be hooking too early and they just cross over and go brooklyn.  Please give me some advice on how to adjust my balls (ie. surface prep, redrilling-if absolutely necessary).  Also, if necessary, I could buy a new ball so I would appreciate any help regarding comparisons/experiences with the Crash, Crunch Time, Dry Heat, Power Groove Reactives, or Scout Reactive.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Dino
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Re: Med-Med/Light oil ball help please
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2005, 02:29:47 PM »
Your best bet is either a hexplosion or dry heat. The crunchtime isn't a really good dry lane ball, and the crash is really really flippy. While the dry heat isn't flippy, the hexp is even smoother off the spot for me. Out of the 2, i'd take the dry heat, put it just depends on how dry, and what kind of reaction you're looking for, down and more flip, dry heat, down and smooth, hexp.
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Re: Med-Med/Light oil ball help please
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2005, 02:30:33 PM »
Ah, the Dry Heat!  Man, I'm glad I have that ball in the bag.  Lots of people say that it's not a true dry lane ball, but then again, how dry of a lane do you ever shoot on?  I've yet to find a lane too dry for this ball.  I think it's all in how you drill it and how you've got the coverstock.  Mine is drilled with the pin above the middle finger and the cg is in the center of my palm.  The coverstock is sanded to 3000 with about 3 coats of wax on it.  It goes super long and then just flips over.  Nothing drastic at all and it hits pretty hard too!
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Re: Med-Med/Light oil ball help please
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2005, 02:40:16 PM »
I need something that will handle carrydown fairly well, and I get quite a lot revs in comparison to my slower (15-16.5mph) ball speed, so I need something that will be able to get down the lane.  I'm going to the Team Canada trials on Saturday, and there's word that they're going to put down a fairly short sport pattern.
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Re: Med-Med/Light oil ball help please
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2005, 02:43:46 PM »
My Hexplosion gets down the lane great. However, the X gets down the lane just as well and has more backend for me. The Dry Heat is probably the best dry lane ball choice, but mine has no backend on any carrydown. Core/cover combo just too weak, at least for me.

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Re: Med-Med/Light oil ball help please
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2005, 03:22:02 PM »
My Hexplosion is an excellent ball for this condition. Since I bowl Juniors, we usually don't see as much oil, which allows me to use balls for heavier conditions for about the first two games. After this, My Hexplosion becomes the premier choice. It is smooth and predictable. Not jumpy on the backends at all. I had the first 7 the other day in league using it, and strongly felt I could have shot a 300 with it that day. It is a great ball for the price (Yes, I know this slogan is overused). I even considered getting rid of mine for a while, however I've grown to love it. The ball hits well no matter where it is. I'm able to carry well wheather the shot is dead flush, light or high. The only problem I've had is the occasional solid ten's here and there, which is probably more operator error. I strongly feel this is the ball for you icetink...I doubt you will be disappointed!
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Re: Med-Med/Light oil ball help please
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2005, 03:32:41 PM »
I'd love an Xception with some polish, but it's big backend comes with a big price tag (at least here in Canada).  I've ruled out the Crunch Time because the great one said it's not really good dry lane ball.  I'm looking to eliminate the Dry Heat from my choices because Clint said it doesn't fair well on carrydown.

I'm still considering the Crash, Pro Stock Pearl, Power Groove, Scout Reactive, Punisher, Panic, and I'm highly considering the Hexplosion from what's been said about it so far.
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Re: Med-Med/Light oil ball help please
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2005, 03:38:15 PM »
I've seen some Hexplosions for sale on here and on EBAY for a very reasonable price. Check this one out....http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36105&item=7131030657&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

I'm sure you could get one used on here MUCH cheaper tho...I bought mine for about 40 bucks shipped.
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Re: Med-Med/Light oil ball help please
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2005, 09:25:29 PM »
I like the Hexplosion on dry. It gets great length (you have to adjust the surface, I have mine polished with magic shine), but still retains enough backend that it will get through carrydown when you can find sufficient dry for it to break off of.
This ball allows me to square up on the dry and play straighter. It is smooth off of the breakpoint-----and at the same time strong enough to turn through patchy backends<<<<<as long as you can find dry to get it back from. If you hit oil in the backends forget about it, it will not recover.

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Re: Med-Med/Light oil ball help please
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2005, 09:26:38 PM »
Thanks for the link, but I prefer buying my equipment from my ball driller. Also, I'd have to pay customs duties on equipment coming from the US so the price between my ball driller and online is minimal. I'm looking to make a decision by tomorrow afternoon, so keep the replies coming; I really appreciate everyone's help and opinions!

Those of you with Hexplosions, how does it react with carrydown and drier heads?  Also, those of you with Crash's, how well does it handle carrydown?  I noticed that the suggested lane condition is medium with carrydown so I would please like to hear some thoughts/opinions/reviews on this ball.  Thanks!
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Re: Med-Med/Light oil ball help please
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2005, 09:29:44 PM »
The Pro Stock Pearl does well on medium-light, but if it gets too light out there based on your ball speed, I fear that ball will take off too much. If the pattern is more of a short sport pattern, three other balls to look into would be the Dynothane Crisis Pearl, the Dynothane Barrage (the latter has a pancake weightblock, great ball for down and in lines...) or the Ebonite Ice. Chances are for a light oil ball you aren't going to want the ball to get into an early roll, so be sure to have the pin placement above the fingers, maybe even above bridge of fingers.

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Re: Med-Med/Light oil ball help please
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2005, 09:33:43 PM »
I've never tried Dynothane or Ebonite equipment before, but quite a few people I know have Ebonite Ice's.  I'll definitely look into those balls as well.  I need something that will clear the heads well and/or handle carrydown.  I'll definitely have the ball drilled with the pin above the fingers to delay the hook.  Thanks!
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Re: Med-Med/Light oil ball help please
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2005, 09:38:29 PM »
Dino,

Hexplosion will handle carrydown-----but you have to find dry for it to recover. The Crash is much strong at the breakpoint and should handle carrydown better. My only fear with the Crash is that as soon as it senses dry it is ready to GO. The Hexplosion clears dry heads better for me than the Crash did.

The Crash is a very good ball, as is the Hexplosion. The Hexplosion is just a little more predictable.

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Re: Med-Med/Light oil ball help please
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2005, 09:47:25 PM »
I'm more comfortable with Track and Brunswick equipment (as those are what I've had most success with).  The Crash and Hexplosion appeal to me, but I'm affraid the Crash won't be able to go down the lane far enough.  I've also never had a ball drilled with the pin above the fingers so I'm unsure of how the ball will react.  I've been hearing a lot of good things about the Power Groove as well, and my little brother's Scout seems to work well on shorter and drier conditions.
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