maybe it's my drilling. but the havoc is a good controllable ball that reads the midlane well and is good on the backend but is a med to light oil ball for me.

Mine is 5.25(pin) x 5"MB. with the pin 2.25" above midline.

that puts the pin in my ring and MB by my thumb, above it actually. I had a short MB ball.

I get a strong midlane and even backend. the surface is a little in between for me. not enough on the backend for fresh and to strong in the midlane for dryer. I'm sure a little polish on the dryer shot and it will rule. a few more revs and I can play a fresher pattern. but I'm learning to be a fluffer

I don't think it is an oil monster buy any means but it is one of the best balls I own. seeing the way the Core keeps the initial tilt though the heads has impressed me with track asymmetrical cores so I'm trying out an unleashed or two.

I threw this for 6 games last monday. league and a 9 pin to tap after.

the ball reacted better after the shot boke down. it had a strong continuous motion. My goal was faster and up the dry for the 9pin. If I threw with good speed and matching revs I buried the ball. but since 9 counts as 10, I was trying to stay light and avoid 4/9 splits. a few times I actually through it through the breakpoint because I put a little to much speed and less revs.

I think a more skid snap ball would have come back stronger. so This confirms in my mind that this ball is a great ball to read the lanes from. if it skates in the midlane you need a stronger earlier ball. if it hooks out in the midlane you need a longer ball.
the ball is playable on most house condition so it is a anchor in the bag in box if you want to carry 4 balls or 2 (1 spare ball).

I think it can be polished to make it more of a med-light ball. that makes for a nice 1-2 punch ball with a ball for med/heavy. add a plastic ball and this should cover most THS shots for 1st and 2nd shifts.



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Omega, you'd be better off trying the AMF assymetrics if you like the Havoc.

The core is virtually the same as ALL the Evos(each tweaked slightly) and 1/2 of the nighthawks. Other 1/2 were the often copied ceramaslam core.  The ceramaslam was a higher rg amf core(symmetric) which was used on two tracks, Hextreme(not loved by all but by some) and the awesome Track Spell(loved by some).

Go to www.bowlingballreviews, AMF, Look up evo and nighthawk in discontinued and you'll see what I mean.

Look at Phenom Unleashed and you will see a great, but different core called morpheus.  Available at track since the Freak, all freaks, Phenom, all Phenoms now Animal.

REgards,

Luckylefty

Hey MC,

I own and operate the shop in Alameda, Ca.(see profile).  Used to be the first stop of the winter tour in the mid 80's(ARC Mel's Bowl).  I shoot at a couple of local bay area houses out here in Callie, named Diablo Lanes and Castro Valley.

You were dead on about this ball bud, it moves quite a bit.  Very interesting though, I'm seeing (based on others reviews here) that this ball is very receptive to the different drill patterns.  It seems like if you drill it weaker, it responds weaker and if you drill to pull up, it does exactly that.
I don't hit the ball anymore and I'm still getting a very strong response from it.  I was expecting less, that's all.  I was on staff with Del during the release of the NightHawk/Menace/Evols and the closest reaction to this was maybe the Extra(particle).  It's a lot of ball for the price, that's for sure.
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