I know this has been brought up before (many times) but we have new balls in play so I thought I would bring this up again. I'm curious what everyone thinks the earliest rolling Track ball is.

I'm currently using a Phenom but I don't like the way I drilled it so I'm replacing it.  It's between another Phenom and the Animal. I have the Untamed and the Unleashed and they both get through the heads really easy so I'm really not considering those for heavy oil and flatter patterns.

If someone thinks I'm missing the boat with the Untamed and the Unleashed feel free to respond.

Thanks!

Take the animal, place the pin 1" above grip line, 3-3/8 from pap and MB on val or past if you want arc or at 3.375  to 4 " for more snap.

sand to 600 and see if that gets you there. I think the nature of these cores is to rev hard off the breakpoint not in the heads but that should get you rolling early as the shell will dictate the traction in oil.

placing the pin that low will give you the earliest change at revs and 3-3/8 gives you max flair to expose as much surface as possible.
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I would drill an animal.It will rev up the earliest and keep coming.If you need more surface than box finish hit it with a grey or green scotchbrite pad.

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Thanks all for the help.
I will try the Animal. Unfortunately I can't use the suggested drilling do to my high inverted roll but I have a early roll set-up that works well or me.

Hey DW,

Omega is correct, don't be afraid to place the pin under rhe fingers when drilling the morpheus cores.  The bigger key is the placement of the mb, by placing the mb on or past your val, it really starts to pull the ball and flare downward.  It's even more likely that if you place the pin above fingers(safe zone) but have the mb near thumb that would make you flare over the fingers.  I've seen and heard this happen several times before.  

The key in understanding the reaction we're seeing is due to the strong asymmetrical cores that have very high mass bias differentials.  The mb differentials are so much greater then they used to be, we can truly control the shape of our hook and breakpoint.  Please pm me if you need any further help, thanks.
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Edited on 6/9/2004 5:24 PM

Hey DW,

You just have a strong inverted track, that's all.  If you want to try this before giving up on the Phenom, it might work.  Plug it and redrill the pin to a leverage position to maybe 4in out at most and then place the mb past your val.  

Your 5 inch pin is still assisting the length on the ball which is not forcing it to lose it's axis rotation.  The mb is also not shifted over far enough for it to pull downward.  The suggested positioning should really help the ball  lose its' axis rotation sooner and get the flare started downward much faster.  I have 2 guys who throw inverted tracks and this is how I was able to pull them off the fingers.

Here's a good one for you.  For one of my guys, we were playing with a another old pattern for control.  I had placed the pin 9:00(pin in track) from cg on a strong symmetrical ball and the weightblock pulled the ball all the way around causing a full roller track.  Just ask Omega, I remember him saying that he got the same reaction from being high inverted also.




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Vise Grip Staff

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