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dw23

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Controlling dry midlane
« on: June 05, 2006, 04:37:47 AM »
Hi Everyone,

I wanted to get everyones opinion on controlling dry midlanes. I know how to change hand positions to tame my ball reaction but do you use particle or reactive and do you use pearl or solid.

Thanks everyone,
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Re: Controlling dry midlane
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2006, 03:26:53 AM »
Mild pearl reactive works well. High RG and drilled mild to tame down flare. Many entry level balls fit that bill very well!

Breaking back the wrist upon release is helpful to tame it down, too, or you can try a suitcase grip (turning thumb inwards for maximun side rotation) - this will increase skid, but might become uncontrollable at the breakpoint. (More) Speed is helpful, too.

Unless you have no revs and high speed, I'd stay away from particle. Storm ball might work, since these use a soft particle that will only grab on dry ground, but nevertheless, you will need head oil to keep the ball "alive" and it might burn out prematurely. A pure reactive or a urethane coverstock are IMHO better bets.
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Re: Controlling dry midlane
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2006, 03:58:23 AM »
Hey Juggernaut,

We're about the same age and I know exactly what you mean when you say it was simpler then.  I was 210+ back 20 years ago while the next guy was 195. Now I'm still 2 teens and even the 180 guys have past me up..

I looked at your arsenal, have you ever tried a pin over middle finger on a medium piece of equipment?  In situations like these which create such drastic ball reactions, one way to attack the condition is with a layout just as drastic or at least out of the norm.  Your layouts are pretty standard for control or nice blended shots from what I see.

My Delta 1 usually gives me quite a bit of length and lots of backend which I don't get to use too often due to my game being more rev dominant.  On this condition however, it pushed past the midlane and ate thru whatever was on the backend.  

Based on my reactions, if you can't change hand positions to create the necessary reaction, I like Dizzy's suggestion also of a higher rg ball that will help push downlane without having to "throw" it harder which I personally don't do well.  That would be a whopping 15.5 mph for me....it takes about a 17+ on these drier conditions to clear properly.  Let me know what you think and I'll try to help.  Taking the Mean Machine to this house later today for a 5 game tourney to see how it does, I'll keep you posted.
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Re: Controlling dry midlane
« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2006, 04:54:14 AM »
Rick,
Curiosity is killing me by chance is the house you refer to a wood house that hasn't had an annual resurface yet. The reason I ask is cause what you are describing sounds very similar to one of my summer leagues. They are putting in Pro-Anvil and hopefully they have enough done next week for us to switch to the other end of the house.
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Re: Controlling dry midlane
« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2006, 08:33:46 AM »
I'm not Rick...

But our disaster is on a ProAnvil (older style)

A little oil goes a long way....AND super deep gutters!

Scoring in our house is quite high for anyone righty and on the left the bullet throwers and the guys with no revs or side roll.

Five to 10 feet of loft works nice too!

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Re: Controlling dry midlane
« Reply #35 on: July 05, 2006, 02:16:25 PM »
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Curiosity is killing me by chance is the house you refer to a wood house that hasn't had an annual resurface yet.


No Sean, it's older synthetic.  They've been in since I moved to Cali, that's been almost 20 years now.  Not sure which type of synthetic though, bowl400 does (he bowls there more), maybe he can chime in.
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Re: Controlling dry midlane
« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2006, 02:24:50 PM »
first generation brunswick is what i have heard.  resurfaced once a few years ago.  the center now uses kegel ion.  they used a phoenix for years until they were able to purchase a used sanction from a local center that closed recently.  they saw the light and then purchased the ion.  shot is more consistent now than ever.  some consider it honor central.  most of the high average players in the center however are straight and accurate or inside with major league serious bend.
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Re: Controlling dry midlane
« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2006, 11:47:52 AM »
Posted this in drilling but I was very pleased with the results of thsi drilling on this shot!

Really reduced the entry angle!!  Yet it covered boards smoothly in the carrydown!

I could see me skying on this shot!

Here is post under Flip Richard in drilling.

Took and applied the pin up version of Flip D I referenced above but made it a flip richard.

4 inch pin to pap.  Pin near val and about 4 inches above grip midline.

Mass bias straight above thumb.  On an X factor Deuce.

Did just what I wanted it to do.  Waited waited waited and then created much less entry angle as I was able to play a shallower swing on this severe Wet dry or should I say bouncing bond dry midlanes with carrydown.

Lots of carry.  Also with my usual drillings (nearer stacked) I never get brooklyns as the ball is crossing too sharp.  Now on thsi shot I'm tetting brooklyns if I cross(not hard to do on thsi bounce!).  In the past if I hit brookly the severe cut to the right left a five pin every time!

It almost looked like my axis rotation was dramatically reduced!  

Yeah!!!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS If I were to change anything I migh move pin down and ever so slightly weaker say 4 1/2 instead of 4!
PPS oh I took reaffirmed the idea here!!
from Dynothane...thanks..(but I wanted more backend movement than there 5 inch pin to pap drill.
http://www.dynothane.com/downloads/drillsheet_centrifugalmass.pdf
Note direct cap location...
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