A quick question.

Some ball drillers (particularly those that have not taken the time to learn about asymmetrical equipment) have drilled balls label leverage without even taking the MB into consideration during the layout. I am going to use an example here: A local ball driller drilled up a Rule for a highschool student with the pin at 1:30, cg in palm and MB at about 9 o'clock in relation to the grip center (bowler is right handed). Needless to say this ball did absolutely nothing.

If you are a bowler that does not know the whats and what nots about drilling or what a certain layout is going to do on a bowling ball and trusts the ball driller to pick a good layout for you and it is drilled like this, would this keep you from buying another asymmetrical ball? It could have been drilled for you, and maybe your instant thoughts is that maybe asymmetrical equipment does not match up to your game.

I mention this because I was able to look at that ball and determine exactly why the driller did that. He drilled it like that to keep the CG in palm and avoid having to put a weighthole in it.

SO, back to the initial question, do you think some ball drillers that are not up to date on the newer equipment on the market could be ruining the thoughts on asymmetrical equipment by bowlers?

-EX-
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C-G Pro Shop (owner/operator)
Youngstown Ohio

Track Intl.-Amateur/Pro Shop Staff

EX, You're probably right about differences in the Gold vs. the Deuce being attributed to the accuracy of MB markings.

Regardless of that particular situation, my feeling is that while asymmetics give the driller more options for reactions, they also provide more opportunities for things to go wrong. I just don't see the uncertainties justifying potential benefits. I can get just about any reaction I want from a well designed symmetric. However, this could be different for others.
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This is a little off topic, but I was wondering if plugging a ball moves the ball's mass bias (I assume it would).  If so, I'm also guessing that a plugged assymmtrical ball should be spun on the determinator in order to find the new MB so it can be accurately re-drilled.

I have a used Rule which I plugged and drilled.  My first Rule was drilled 4 1/2 x 3 1/2 with the pin under the fingers, MB around 3" right of thumb.  It got decent length and it provided a hook-set/forward roll reaction.  

The used Rule which I plugged and drilled was drilled approximately 5 3/8 x 5 with the pin above the bridge, MB around 1" right of thumb.  It's highly polished with Magic Shine.  The reaction I get from this is about 3-5' more length but a similar hook-set/forward roll reaction.  Shouldn't this be a good 5'+ in length with a more continuous backend?
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EX,

the answer is YES,  in my area, there is a so called driller guy love to sell STORM master line to "Conventional Grips" bowlers.  I have seen at least 15 X-factor conventional come to the shop and ask me why the ball not striking.  I know its not the ball its the bowler, but this case shows that driller not only wasting the customer's money but also killed a nice equipment.
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Laufaye