Quote from: Dave-bestbowlingproshops on May 22, 2012, 01:00:42 PM

Quote from: Walking E on May 18, 2012, 06:59:42 PM

Hmmm, I'm skeptical that any bowler would see a noticeable difference between the 300C and 300A without surface changes and/or different layouts.

Cover makes a huge difference.  That's all the 300T and 300C are...different shells and they are completely different types of reactions. 

300C is a pearl, 300T is a solid. This - and the finishing process - explains their different reactions. 300A is also a pearl. While the new cover is likely stronger, it's still a 3-series ball, which indicates to me that the shell isn't THAT much stronger. I doubt that the average bowler would see enough difference to justify having both, unless they changed layout and/or surface.

Very true.  Since I primarily sell Track at my location I'll get a close look at how this pans out since I drill mostly for the very "average" bowler.  .  I'll give a better opinion then and always...an honest.  I'm sure I'll sell a lot of them which should give me a better gauge.  Also when I do testing personally.  Balls I compare the newer stuff to always have the same layout and are at the exact same surface done by me.  Never box...never different.  I will be doing a video of the all the newest releases this summer and I will have 300C,T, and A all the same layout and surface.  I just feel that way the only variable is the ball. 

Dave, I can't wait to see the videos! :-)

The core of the 706A has me very interested. If it rolls as good as anticipated, I wish I would have mine before I go to nationals on July 1st. But that's just wishful thinking.

Quote from: Walking E on May 23, 2012, 04:14:43 PM

Quote from: Dave-bestbowlingproshops on May 22, 2012, 01:00:42 PM

Quote from: Walking E on May 18, 2012, 06:59:42 PM

Hmmm, I'm skeptical that any bowler would see a noticeable difference between the 300C and 300A without surface changes and/or different layouts.

Cover makes a huge difference.  That's all the 300T and 300C are...different shells and they are completely different types of reactions. 

300C is a pearl, 300T is a solid. This - and the finishing process - explains their different reactions. 300A is also a pearl. While the new cover is likely stronger, it's still a 3-series ball, which indicates to me that the shell isn't THAT much stronger. I doubt that the average bowler would see enough difference to justify having both, unless they changed layout and/or surface.

Not entirely true sir. keep in mind that the 3 represents the core strength, and the 00 indicates the intermediate differential ( 00 because it is symmetrical). The strength of the cover isn't indicated in the number system, but rather the name of the cover stock itself. Even though these are the "low performance" balls in the Track line, I see nearly a 5-7 board difference between my 300t and my original 300c with an identical drill. I also notice that the 300t is a lot closer to my 505T than I anticipate.

The 300A will be a great ball. With the medium strength cover and a lot of pearl, this ball should be the longer snappier ball that will fit below the 508A. That is something that will definitely find a place in my bag because I have noticed that my 508A has a lot more mid lane than I expected.

Well no, the 3, 5, 7, and 9 do not solely represent core strength. The second two numbers represent core strength, in terms of the mass bias values (though not RG values or even differential). The 3, 5, 7 and 9 represent, basically, "overall ball strength", which is mainly determined by the shell, though the stronger cores in the higher ball series also influence the rating. The shell and core combination then also determines whether it's an A, C or T ball. The 3, 5, 7, and 9 numbers also represent price points, though - in theory - you get what you pay for.
In any case, I still say that the average bowler won't see much difference between the 300C and 300A given the same cover prep and layout. The shells and cores are slightly different in the two balls, but I just can't see where it would be THAT much different. I guess I'll just have to see when it comes out. The Fagan/Beasley videos don't compare the two balls to each other, though I imagine those two might see a difference more clearly than mere mortals like myself.

Thanks, Dave. The 508A has been such a huge hit in my area that I think the 300A will be a pretty popular ball, especially for summer leagues with typically lighter oil volumes. It's good to know that there is a distinct difference between this ball and the 300C as I was pretty skeptical. The Track videos enhanced my skepticism since they didn't compare the 300A with the 300C - only with the stronger 508A.