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Equipment Boards => Track => Topic started by: Curt_Dupre on May 17, 2012, 08:33:59 PM
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Which ball out of the new lineup are you most excited for? For me I think I can't wait to try the 912T and 706A.
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300A for sure I have alot of hand and I can't wait to have a angular ball under my 300T when it brakes down so I can move left and wheel ;)
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300A
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I'm thinking the 706A and could always fit a 912T under my Defiant by going pin up instead of pin down. Although I can also see the 503T as a possible eventual replacement to the 505T if it's close enough.
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Out of all of them I'm looking at maybe getting a 300A
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I agree for a league bowler the 300A looks to be the most useable.
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Definitely getting a 503T, might get a 706A if it's comparable enough to the 607A. Can't see myself getting the 912T (unless I somehow win one on Track's Facebook page), because the 716T gets the job done on the heavier stuff or the 300A because I think I throw it too hard.
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Which ball out of the new lineup are you most excited for? For me I think I can't wait to try the 912T and 706A.
I've never thrown a 700 or 300 series ball so I still need to give one of those a go, but the 920T is my go to ball so I'll probably give the 912T a look. I'm most interested in the 503T to replace my 505T which has seen a ridiculous amount of games. I wish they would do what Columbia did and do a re-release of the 505T even if only a limited batch release. Say, should Fagan win player of the year....
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If the 505T were to come back out as a limited release, I would absolutely pick 1 or 2 more up. I bought my current 505T from Dave81644 on here a while back and that ball is just flat out awesome. It's a hell of a piece on virtually all medium and some medium-heavy shots I find. It's definitely my go to ball in the arsenal.
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Hmmm, I'm skeptical that any bowler would see a noticeable difference between the 300C and 300A without surface changes and/or different layouts.
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Looking forward to the 300A or the 706A, hoping to find a Track version of the Hammer Black Taboo.
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tommyboy, glad you like it, i was pretty sure you would
I went to 15 lb this year and picked 2 of them.
ended up winning handicap doubles and 2nd place in scratch doubles (by 4 pins)
city of milwaukee tourney using my pin up 505t for minors and that ball is flat out awesome.
hope the 503t is close for when i need replacements
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Hmmm, I'm skeptical that any bowler would see a noticeable difference between the 300C and 300A without surface changes and/or different layouts.
Cover makes a huge difference. That's all the 300T and 300C are...different shells and they are completely different types of reactions.
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I just picked up a used 916AT. I think a 503T would be a good compliment for it.
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Hmmm, I'm skeptical that any bowler would see a noticeable difference between the 300C and 300A without surface changes and/or different layouts.
Cover makes a huge difference. That's all the 300T and 300C are...different shells and they are completely different types of reactions.
300C is a pearl, 300T is a solid. This - and the finishing process - explains their different reactions. 300A is also a pearl. While the new cover is likely stronger, it's still a 3-series ball, which indicates to me that the shell isn't THAT much stronger. I doubt that the average bowler would see enough difference to justify having both, unless they changed layout and/or surface.
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Hmmm, I'm skeptical that any bowler would see a noticeable difference between the 300C and 300A without surface changes and/or different layouts.
Cover makes a huge difference. That's all the 300T and 300C are...different shells and they are completely different types of reactions.
300C is a pearl, 300T is a solid. This - and the finishing process - explains their different reactions. 300A is also a pearl. While the new cover is likely stronger, it's still a 3-series ball, which indicates to me that the shell isn't THAT much stronger. I doubt that the average bowler would see enough difference to justify having both, unless they changed layout and/or surface.
Very true. Since I primarily sell Track at my location I'll get a close look at how this pans out since I drill mostly for the very "average" bowler. :D. I'll give a better opinion then and always...an honest. I'm sure I'll sell a lot of them which should give me a better gauge. Also when I do testing personally. Balls I compare the newer stuff to always have the same layout and are at the exact same surface done by me. Never box...never different. I will be doing a video of the all the newest releases this summer and I will have 300C,T, and A all the same layout and surface. I just feel that way the only variable is the ball.
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Also to actually reply to the topic lol (sorry Curt). I'm excited for all four but mostly the 300A and 912T. I really like my 300C and use it a lot but sometimes can be a bit too rolly for me. I'm hoping the 912T is our "home run" ball as they call it. Something with the attention and love that the Taboo, Mission, and Nano series seems to get. It looks great in the vids but until I get it into my customers hands I won't know for sure. ;D
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Dave, I can't wait to see the videos! :-)
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Hmmm, I'm skeptical that any bowler would see a noticeable difference between the 300C and 300A without surface changes and/or different layouts.
Cover makes a huge difference. That's all the 300T and 300C are...different shells and they are completely different types of reactions.
300C is a pearl, 300T is a solid. This - and the finishing process - explains their different reactions. 300A is also a pearl. While the new cover is likely stronger, it's still a 3-series ball, which indicates to me that the shell isn't THAT much stronger. I doubt that the average bowler would see enough difference to justify having both, unless they changed layout and/or surface.
Not entirely true sir. keep in mind that the 3 represents the core strength, and the 00 indicates the intermediate differential ( 00 because it is symmetrical). The strength of the cover isn't indicated in the number system, but rather the name of the cover stock itself. Even though these are the "low performance" balls in the Track line, I see nearly a 5-7 board difference between my 300t and my original 300c with an identical drill. I also notice that the 300t is a lot closer to my 505T than I anticipate.
The 300A will be a great ball. With the medium strength cover and a lot of pearl, this ball should be the longer snappier ball that will fit below the 508A. That is something that will definitely find a place in my bag because I have noticed that my 508A has a lot more mid lane than I expected.
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The core of the 706A has me very interested. If it rolls as good as anticipated, I wish I would have mine before I go to nationals on July 1st. But that's just wishful thinking.
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706A is something I could really use since I don't really have anything angular in my bag. 716T is also still on my wishlist.
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Hmmm, I'm skeptical that any bowler would see a noticeable difference between the 300C and 300A without surface changes and/or different layouts.
Cover makes a huge difference. That's all the 300T and 300C are...different shells and they are completely different types of reactions.
300C is a pearl, 300T is a solid. This - and the finishing process - explains their different reactions. 300A is also a pearl. While the new cover is likely stronger, it's still a 3-series ball, which indicates to me that the shell isn't THAT much stronger. I doubt that the average bowler would see enough difference to justify having both, unless they changed layout and/or surface.
Not entirely true sir. keep in mind that the 3 represents the core strength, and the 00 indicates the intermediate differential ( 00 because it is symmetrical). The strength of the cover isn't indicated in the number system, but rather the name of the cover stock itself. Even though these are the "low performance" balls in the Track line, I see nearly a 5-7 board difference between my 300t and my original 300c with an identical drill. I also notice that the 300t is a lot closer to my 505T than I anticipate.
The 300A will be a great ball. With the medium strength cover and a lot of pearl, this ball should be the longer snappier ball that will fit below the 508A. That is something that will definitely find a place in my bag because I have noticed that my 508A has a lot more mid lane than I expected.
Well no, the 3, 5, 7, and 9 do not solely represent core strength. The second two numbers represent core strength, in terms of the mass bias values (though not RG values or even differential). The 3, 5, 7 and 9 represent, basically, "overall ball strength", which is mainly determined by the shell, though the stronger cores in the higher ball series also influence the rating. The shell and core combination then also determines whether it's an A, C or T ball. The 3, 5, 7, and 9 numbers also represent price points, though - in theory - you get what you pay for.
In any case, I still say that the average bowler won't see much difference between the 300C and 300A given the same cover prep and layout. The shells and cores are slightly different in the two balls, but I just can't see where it would be THAT much different. I guess I'll just have to see when it comes out. The Fagan/Beasley videos don't compare the two balls to each other, though I imagine those two might see a difference more clearly than mere mortals like myself.
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Ok so far I've done a bit of testing with my 300A vs 300C and T. Obviously between the 300A and 300T there's a huge difference in length and overall reaction. 300A is much, much cleaner with a small pop at the end where the 300T is much more rolly. Now the difference between the 300A and C isn't really as slight as I expected. The 300A is noticeably cleaner down the lane and when moving in on drier lanes (tested on a very worn house shot on a relatively high friction surface) the 300A made the corner much cleaner and sharper than the 300C. Not a crazy amount of angle but it's noticeable. The problem I always had before with my 300C was when I needed to move it hitting power was greatly lost. Doesn't seem to be the case with the 300A but I still need to do more testing as these are just first impresssions. Again when I start getting these in my customers hands I'll see a difference there too and will update.
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Thanks, Dave. The 508A has been such a huge hit in my area that I think the 300A will be a pretty popular ball, especially for summer leagues with typically lighter oil volumes. It's good to know that there is a distinct difference between this ball and the 300C as I was pretty skeptical. The Track videos enhanced my skepticism since they didn't compare the 300A with the 300C - only with the stronger 508A.
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Since switching to Track, I love my 919c and 300T, and have the 715T , 716C, 811A, 503C, and 916AT.
And for me i am really geeked about the 300A, mainly if it is a true light oil ball.. I'd probably drill it Pin up with a Medium type drill pattern..
not saying i wont get all of these lol, but the problem once again is, I'd find myself probably overlapping with alot of my stuff.....
My 916AT / 716C is a pin down ( same drilling ), and 919C is pin up... 715T has the pin in the Ring finger, and same with my 811A, both drilled the same.. my 503C has the pin in the Middle finger... with a similar drilling..
My 300T has drilling i've never tried before lol.... but i love the reaction
So i will probably end up getting all 4 and using similar drillings on them and seeing how they work....