There is no way shape or form could Ebonite produce this ball. If I am not mistaken, the coverstocks were made by BASF. Again, if I am not mistaken, Ebonite doesn't have anything to with BASF. It is not possible to have the same type of ball reaction when using different coverstocks. Phil has a secret in the soaker coverstock as well that will not be revealed. That is his own chemistry.