Author Topic: Pick me a ball if you please (Read 2559 times)

shipper50 · « **on:** September 07, 2006, 02:01:31 PM »

I have found out the new house I am bowling in puts down a 10-10 40 foot shot that is not buffed. There is 50 units in the middle and the lanes are Brunswick synthetic.

I am more of a down and in player that doesn't want to hook the ball across 30 boards. I have found out if you play behind the ball around 8-10 area the ball will hold and set up. My pap is 4 3/4 up 1/4 and speed is around 15.5 to 16.

Thanks for any help from all you Track gurus'.

Shipper

FastTracker33 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 07, 2006, 10:06:26 PM »

For that type of shot, hmmm, those are my same lanes, same pattern, and the same down and in i used to play

Anyways, i think the Equation, or maybe even Inertia will fit that typw of shot great! The Equation will give you more overall backend reaction since it's a reactive compared to the partice Inertia, and have a nice hard finish on the backend. So Equation would be nice for down and in.

The Inertia will be better if you need to play a little swing, because then it will get through the head oil, and still have a nice finish since it's particle.

Either ball (Equation or Inertia) will fit your spot that you want very well, in my opinion from reading reviews so much, i sort of understand how both will work. Hope i helped!
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C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #2 on:** September 07, 2006, 11:19:58 PM »

shipper,

What kind of ball do you think is needed? Strong early revs, late reaction or something smooth?

Carl
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mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #3 on:** September 07, 2006, 11:40:46 PM »

Inertia or artillery your choice today, both will easily fit the gap i do not hook the ball that much unless the lane does it for me. I just got the Inertia pin under ring and mb about 2 inches right of my thumb, pin to pap 4 1/2 and mb to pap would be right at 4 1/4 weight hole 1 inch down from pap. Ball is pretty long in box finish on medium on up, i hit with a 1000 abralon pad by hand and it woke right up. After taking off the factory polish it has become a very nice rolling ball, every even with a decent backend in medium heavy fresh oil.

I have an Artillery that is drilled pretty close to this but cg is stacked below the pin so no weight hole was needed. It revs up very hard and has a very strong backend in medium/heavy fresh oil. It is much more angular than the Inertia is and carry is above average with either ball.

I would contact Clint Daley for all Track ball needs he runs specials all the time, he just ebayed an Inertia last night in 15 lb. He has Inertia's for 139 drilled and shipped right now in all weights and specs.

Noy · « **Reply #4 on:** September 08, 2006, 12:21:30 AM »

Id give a vote to the Equation. I play a down and in type of game, its the first ball out of my bag.
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shipper50 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 08, 2006, 04:24:51 AM »

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shipper,

What kind of ball do you think is needed? Strong early revs, late reaction or something smooth?

Carl
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Carl,

I have found I can play the smooth shot better than the old backender. I used to bowl on lanes with back ends and had balls like the Silver Streak and ACE. It seems balls that arc are more my style and I score better now.

Thanks
Shipper

cficare068 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 08, 2006, 05:28:32 AM »

I'm going to say the Equation or the Arsenal Artillery.
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tenpinspro · « **Reply #7 on:** September 08, 2006, 10:46:13 AM »

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I have found out the new house I am bowling in puts down a 10-10 40 foot shot that is not buffed.

Hey ship,

If it isn't buffed, it can create a very strong backend reaction. Basically a over/under reaction from front to back, not only side to side. What I mean by this is that when the ball comes out of the oil at 40ft, it can jump pretty hard so that would also explain why arcing balls are easier to control vs skid/flip balls.

For this I'd suggest our Inertia which is a smoother on the backend and having it drilled a little weaker as well. We can keep the mass bias in a position so that it doesn't truly enhance the reaction because the condition will do that on it's own. PM me for details on a layout "sir"...

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strikezone_sanantonio · « **Reply #8 on:** September 08, 2006, 06:22:28 PM »

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I have found out the new house I am bowling in puts down a 10-10 40 foot shot that is not buffed.

Hey ship,

If it isn't buffed, it can create a very strong backend reaction. Basically a over/under reaction from front to back, not only side to side. What I mean by this is that when the ball comes out of the oil at 40ft, it can jump pretty hard so that would also explain why arcing balls are easier to control vs skid/flip balls.

For this I'd suggest our Inertia which is a smoother on the backend and having it drilled a little weaker as well. We can keep the mass bias in a position so that it doesn't truly enhance the reaction because the condition will do that on it's own. PM me for details on a layout "sir"...
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tenpinspro · « **Reply #9 on:** September 12, 2006, 07:32:57 AM »

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Rick,

Would a Heat Blast not work also? Basically the same smoothness, just for a little less oil right?

Yes Chuck it could. Main reason I suggested the Inertia is because I'm picturing a decent amount of oil in the middle (and no buff) so the Inertia will read thru that smoother. "If" the oil is a heavier density, the Blast could still have some "pop" to it based on my explanation of a ball's capability of "conserving" or "storing" energy.

Good job on keeping me on my toes buddy..

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C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #10 on:** September 12, 2006, 02:26:21 PM »

For this type of condition I too am on the Inertia bandwagon! It reads early enough to smoothen out the transition a bit.

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shipper50 · « **Reply #11 on:** September 12, 2006, 03:36:02 PM »

Thanks for all the replies. I have a Inertia coming, now how to figure the layout. The other house I bowl in is an all wood house and the shot is about the same. I would say less in the middle and more guys play any where from 8-15 to start and then to 20 by the 3 game.

Shipper

tenpinspro · « **Reply #12 on:** September 12, 2006, 05:04:48 PM »

Hey ship,

I'd say a 3.75 x 5.5-6 mb with the pin about 2 inches above mid line should do the trick. This is fairly close to mine and it offers a very nice smooth reaction from beginning to end. Combine this with our Peak Particle and it should help roll thru the oil a little better and not store "too" much energy so that it is not "too" jumpy once it gets out of the oil. Not sure if you saw my vids on this but here you go...

http://media.putfile.com/Inertia
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tenpinspro · « **Reply #13 on:** September 12, 2006, 05:57:12 PM »

lol...ooops, sorry Larry. Just helping too many people out here bouncing between pm's and stuff. This is also what is known as having a senior moment guys...

and yes, I am eligible in 2 yrs for NCST (Northern California "SENIOR" Tour)...

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Good explanation Rick, and if I don't keep you on your toes, you couldn't see over the approach. Glad I could help

Now you sound like achappy, he said I couldn't cross the street cause I couldn't reach the curb on the other side...LOL

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FastTracker33 · « **Reply #14 on:** September 14, 2006, 09:33:01 PM »

Here was my night with my Inertia...

http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=136371&ForumID=14&CategoryID=2

It was great!
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