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Equipment Boards => Track => Topic started by: clintdaley on May 18, 2005, 05:46:59 AM

Title: Poll for Track users:
Post by: clintdaley on May 18, 2005, 05:46:59 AM: I have posted on here several times that by next year, I will have drilled at least 6 GP2s for myself and have given the different drills and cover changes, etc. I feel the versatility of the cover is among, if not the best among strong particle covers that are currently on the market and the characteristics of the ball in general suit my game perfectly. I feel I can cover everything but the driest of dry, which is when I would pull out a plastic ball. Here is my question. If you could drill up a whole arsenal of balls for yourself, but you could only choose 1 ball to do this with, which ball from the current Track line would it be and why? This could be an arsenal of just 2, 4, 6 or however many balls you like to carry or would like to carry. While more than likely none of you would do this, I would like to see your feelings.

I look forward to reading all of your responses!

Clint
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Lets Go Bowling Daley
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Edited on 5/18/2005 2:20 PM
Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: bighook69 on May 18, 2005, 01:47:54 PM: 4, can easily cover all the oil patterns and its not that heavy
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Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: clintdaley on May 18, 2005, 01:52:11 PM: But of which ball? Remember, you can only pick 1 ball.

Clint
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Clint Daley-Owner
Lets Go Bowling Daley
Salem, Ohio 44460
TRACK ADVISORY PRO SHOP STAFF
Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: bighook69 on May 18, 2005, 01:55:04 PM: Arsenal Aggressive

1 with 2000 grit high gloss polish
1 with 1000 grit wet sand
1 with 600 grit wet sand
1 with 400 grit wet sand
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Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: Traumabill on May 18, 2005, 02:20:22 PM: Clint,

For me, I'd use a Slash...I'd use a symmetrical core to do this, and since the Arsenal Core isn't available in a strong resin - (The FAZ is close) - the Slash
would be my choice. It's versatility for me is like you with the GP2.

I'd do one at like 400 - 600 pin down for Floods
Box for meds - med heavy
one with pin high at 2000 or so for light oil

I couldn't use the same drill with just coverstock changes...doesn't work for me...

Bill
Bowling Services Unlimited
www.bsuproshops.com
Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: clintdaley on May 18, 2005, 02:22:32 PM: So far,

1 for GP2
1 for Arsenal Aggressive
1 for Slash

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Lets Go Bowling Daley
Salem, Ohio 44460
TRACK ADVISORY PRO SHOP STAFF
Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: Rev_O on May 18, 2005, 02:25:57 PM: I would have to say the Rule. With different layouts and cover preps, I'm sure I could cover anything but the sahara with 4 of them.

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Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: freak761 on May 18, 2005, 02:38:25 PM: I'd have to say the Rule too, but I would have liked to have tried that with the Sheer Havoc before it was "retired".
Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: fishnic on May 18, 2005, 03:53:34 PM: I would go with the rule, i don't own one but i think a slash would work very well too.
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Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: Laybzz74 on May 18, 2005, 04:15:45 PM: I don't have one, but based upon my research, what I've heard, what I've read, ball specs, and my own experience with 4 Track balls ... SLASH with different layouts and coverstock finishes. My 2 cents ... oh, by the way, I LOVE my animal, Animal Untamed and FreakAZoid !!!
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Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: tenpinspro on May 18, 2005, 04:18:13 PM: Hmmm...another good question Clint. Can't choose just one, Del and co. have done so well in making sure their covers are versatile....I can go with either the GP2 or the Animal. I had multiples of both with different covers and they both reacted accordingly with great hitting power as well. I currently have 2 GP2s (1 dull, 1 polished) and there is at least a 12-14 board separation between the two. Pretty amazing actually....
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Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: BackToBasics on May 18, 2005, 05:33:02 PM: Agressive. The cover is extremely versatile and can cover quite a few different patterns and this is with the same ball.
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Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: bighook69 on May 18, 2005, 05:36:19 PM: i will vote the aggressive as well.....NO i Did NOT vote already......

but i did forget to list my reason: The ball is symetric, making it very controllable and with the control BUT a powerful, yet adjustable cover this ball is a KEY part of any arsenal.
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Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: loose5682 on May 18, 2005, 05:39:49 PM: I'm gonna stand out like a sore thumb and say the Xception! While it may not be able to handle a flood (even though I do somewhat decent with dull pearl balls, especially since they still tend to backend rather decent for me), it could handle EVERYTHING else, probably including the sahara.

Heavy - Pin 3 3/8" from PAP, MB about 1 1/2" off midline, cover dulled to 500 grit Abralon
Medium (roll) - Pin under bridge, MB at 55 degrees, cover to 1000 grit abralon
Medium (flip) - Pin above ring, MB 1" off midline, cover dulled to 800 grit abralon base, then polished for 2 minutes
Light - Pin above bridge, MB at 75 degrees, cover to 4000 grit abralon base, then polished for 8 minutes.

Works for me!
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Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: hotshot187 on May 18, 2005, 06:11:30 PM: My vote goes to the Aggressive. I just love the way the ball rolls, control and hitting power out I get out of mine. Simply amazing ball.
Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on May 18, 2005, 10:36:17 PM: It is too difficult to pick one.....but if I had to, the Aggressive would fit nicely.

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Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: stanski on May 18, 2005, 10:51:50 PM: xception here, pearls react very well in my game, and i think with enough surface it would work decently on oil, which is where i perform best anyways. I'd rather have a ball that performs better on dry than oil.
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Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: TWOHAND834 on May 18, 2005, 11:26:03 PM: WOW!!!! I am surprised nobody mentioned the Havoc. Good solid reactive would be my first choice. The reason is that most solids are designed for oil in mind. BUT....the great thing about solids is that with the right layout (pin 5-5 1/2 from PAP) and a good amount of polish, you can get the solid to react like a pearl. Other balls that come to mind are the Phenom and Phenom Unleased (yes I know they are particle). As far as current balls are concerned, I would have to say the XCeption.
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Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: clintdaley on May 19, 2005, 08:07:57 AM: So far the results are:

Aggressive-4
Xception-3
Rule-3
Slash-3
GP2-2
FAZ-1
Animal-1
Havoc-1

Great answers, and honestly, about what I Xpected.

Keep um coming though!

Clint
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Lets Go Bowling Daley
Salem, Ohio 44460
TRACK ADVISORY PRO SHOP STAFF
Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: Charles on May 19, 2005, 11:50:09 AM: Gotta give a vote to the original Freak. Have 3 of them and can cover every condition except the Sahara also. Could drill a fourth one negative and polish it to 2000 grit for this purpose.
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Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: O-Zone on May 19, 2005, 03:17:40 PM: I'd go with a Slash. I haven't drilled up more than one of any ball from Track yet, but if I did, that would be the ball I would start with.
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Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: icetink on May 19, 2005, 03:46:46 PM: The Rule.

1. 600-grit - 4 x 3 pin below the fingers
2. OOB surface - 4 1/2 x 4 pin below the fingers
3. Decent coat of Magic Shine - 4 1/2 x 5 pin above the fingers
4. Decent coat of Clean N' Polish - 6 x 6 pin above the fingers.

The coverstock being so strong can be manipulated to handle a variety of conditions. Although the coverstock is very aggressive, drilling the ball with the pin negative and above the fingers should be able to create decent length.
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Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: MAD on May 21, 2005, 11:10:53 AM: I would choose the rule. Being reactive it is a more versatile cover than particles. Combined with the asymmetric core, only the two extremes would be difficult for the rule.

My problem with particles is their tendency to burn up and leave corner pins on shorter dryer patterns. The rule can be polished and the asymmetric core can be positioned to produce skid resulting in stronger entry angles even on those short, dry patterns.

The rule's strong cover and asymmetric core also allows it to be set up for heavier oil patterns. Just sand down to 320 and set the core to rev early.

My second choice would be the Slash for the same reasons that the strong reactive cover is more versatile than a strong particle cover.
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Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: srlunatic on May 21, 2005, 11:14:19 AM: My choice......

Phenom Unleashed

Surface was always so very tweakable and was always such a consistant ball. Always held power through the pin deck.

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Title: Re: Poll for Track users:
Post by: Nails on May 21, 2005, 11:19:07 AM: If I were to try to use one ball for anything, it would have to be a medium/strong reactive. I would vote for the Rule. The Slash might be a good choice as well, but I haven't thrown one. If it were still available, I might go with the Havoc. Unless you can throw 75+ degrees axis rotation, 20+ mph, put the pin near your track and polish the daylights out of it, I just don't see some of the strong particle balls being that versatile. I haven't thrown a GP2, so I could be wrong, but I'd have to see it to believe it.
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