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Xception 5.0 First Impressions
« on: May 19, 2005, 02:32:22 PM »
I got a chance to throw it a little tonight.  Just punched up to get a feel for it .  Layout is 5 x 4 with pin under ring, 1.5" above midline.  I decided to experiment with target weighting so the weighthole is 2.5" from the center of the grip 3" deep.

This is one strong ball but IHMO in all the right places (the midlane and backend). The midlane read is really nice.  It's definately a different look than the Xception.  I compared it to an Xception with the same layout except the pin was above the fingers and the extra hole was 2 1/4" below the axis.  The X5.0 was easily at least 3-4 boards stronger but with more midlane.       The backend is still strong.  Unfortunately, this is my first target weighted ball so I don't know how much of the look is natural but the midlane and continuation was really turning heads.  There was never a strong change of direction like the Xception.  It just picked up in the midlane and continued from there.  Carry was "exceptional"

I'll post more once I get more games on it and compare to my other equipment (i.e GP2 and Agressive).
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Re: Xception 5.0 First Impressions
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2005, 07:26:14 PM »
Anthony, Excal, Rick and Clint,

Just read the BTM review of this ball.
THEY LOVE IT! Nothing but suprelatives.
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Re: Xception 5.0 First Impressions
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2005, 09:18:28 PM »
Hopefully I can tell you the same, as soon as mine arrive!

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Re: Xception 5.0 First Impressions
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2005, 10:54:03 PM »
Sactown:
Thanks for the compliment!  Were you in San Diego? I'll definately work on on trying to get some high quality vids up.

I'm very new to target weighting as I've only gathered the information 3rd hand but it's an additional tweaking method that allows the ball to lose rotation and tilt sooner by helping decrease the spin time.    There's a chart that gives the exact weight hole location based on the after drilling top and side weight.  I really like to either drill another Xception and tweak it or drill another X5.0 to see how much a difference this technique makes.

A search may come up with more info or you can possibly contact Precision or King of the Mill as they have lots more experience and information.  Mo is scheduled to be in Detroit at the mixed doubles house so hopefully I can buy him a few drinks and milk him for info!  

charlest:
I'll have to check the shop for the latest BTM as they get them early.  I'm really interested in what they say about this ball.
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Re: Xception 5.0 First Impressions
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2005, 12:55:41 AM »
charlest,

I know. I have had my issue for a few days now. I keep forgetting it at work though.

They don't give it a backend reaction rating that I see out of it.

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Re: Xception 5.0 First Impressions
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2005, 02:14:12 AM »
Hey Sactown,

I have no clue what TARGET weighting is either but just reading the description of where achapppy's weight hole is, it sounds like you'd want the weight to removed from the top or near top of the core to lower the diff but since we're dealing with an asymmetrical block, now we also have to follow in line with the mass bias to make sure we're catching the denser part of that area as well, make sense?  

I'm completely guessing bud but knowing how achappy and very strong handed players like to have their stuff super tame, I can see having to know the exact shape of the block and then drilling a weight hole thru the densest part of that block to decrease the differential as much as desired based on placement of the hole to the block density.  That's my guess...I'll have to ask Brian and find out just how wrong I am...
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Re: Xception 5.0 First Impressions
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2005, 11:22:09 AM »
Just  a few more thoughts.  From the way Precision explained it to me, by using this hole placement, you are in effect moving the after drilling MB towards this hole, thus decreasing the spin time.  This allows the ball to lose rotation and tilt quicker.  Now being the science geek that I am, I want to know why this is the case and just the "because".

I had a lenghty conversation with another Track staffer, John Beasley (great bowler) and he was explaining how his Xception was not reading that well while out in Vegas and Mo plugged the weighthole and target weighted it and it was night and day difference.  Much better read and reaction.  He does have quite a bit of tilt.  I'm using it because I have lots of rotation so getting it lose it quickly without  loosing hit is advantageous to me.

Hopefully I'll learn more and see how much of a tweaking tool it is.
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Re: Xception 5.0 First Impressions
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2005, 12:00:21 PM »
ACHAPPY-

Thanks for all the info so far and we will looking forward to more good stuff.  About San Diego, I finished 26th that year.  I just never got over the hill when I bowled the amateur stuff, not that I have done much in the Adults, but I have a pretty storied Junior Career.  I am now an owner of a PRO SHOP in cali, just chilling in NOR-CAL.  Good luck in Detroit at the Rodman.

GOOD LUCK AND GOD BLESS
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