Hello all, I have recently got back into bowling after a 10 year "break".  Actually I got burnt out after bowling from age 8-18. I am now 29 and back in the game.  The last ball I purchased was a Columbia Cuda/c in 1995. Well I guess you know I desperately needed new equipment.  I stumbled across this site while looking for bowling ball reviews, and decided to look up some info on the Track stuff I would see at local pro shops(The Bowlers Edge here in San Antonio).  I new I needed a heavy oil ball and after reading a ton of posts here by you guys I picked up a ROBO RULE. I had it drilled fairly agressive with the pin at about 5 o'clock under my ring finger. I got exactly what I needed for the heavy stuff. I've come to find out that it is too strong for some drier lanes I come across.

Now to my question.  I want to pick up a ball to compliment my Robo Rule and have narrowed it down to the MACHINE or the ARSENAL ARTILLERY.

What is the difference between the two?  Which do you prefer? I still want a strong ball for Medium  Medium/Dry conditions.  I have heard nothing but good things about both balls.

I am 100% confident you guys can help me make a decision. I've learned alot just by reading your posts, and I am start to pick up on all the technical terms you use.  I still consider myself a newbie since I've been gone for so long.  I'm a tweener with medium rev rate. I stand on the middle dot and shoot at the 2nd arrow usually. Thanks in advance for any help you can give.

Add one more name to the "Revolution."

Between the 2 if you are wanting something for medium to medium dry I would suggest the Arsenal Artillery.  I believe the machine would be a little to much ball for what you are wanting.  Personally though I would suggest a heat or a heat blast for that condition
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Arsenal includes:
Rule GP2, Rule Delta 1, Heat Blast, Triton Heat,  Desert Heat, Blue Enforcer, Sugar Ray Leonard Boxing Glove

I can't speak for the Artillery but I can tell you that the Machine is a great compliment to the Robo.
Here is what I have found with my limited experience with the 2 of them.
AMF HPL synthetics, fresh 40' with 70ish units 8-8 @ 10'
The 2 looked suprisingly similar on the fresh with the Robo being a bit earlier and smoother.
Same pattern only after 3 games of league with most players playing the track area. The Machine still worked very well I moved 5 boards left with my feet and targeted the same break point the ball had no trouble pushing through the track area and getting out to 5. I tried playing this same line with the Robo and it would check up when it got to the track area. Tried moving a bit deeper and then it wouldn't make the corner for me which was no surprise cause I was already at the limit of my comfort zone. To get the Robo to work with any consistency on the leftover shot I had suitcase the ball a bit and play a tighter line where there was enough carry-down to give me a bit more push. Tried the Machine going through the heavier carry-down and it was a bit squirty.
Roughly the same pattern only on wood the Robo is unusable for me even on fresh but the Machine is great for first game and a half or so. Actually went front 8 before leaving a stone 9. I didn't think I would be able to use the Machine on the wood shot due to the strength it showed on the synthetic shot which plays much slicker. I think this is a great testament to how versatile the ball is.

You can't go wrong with either, I prefer asymmetricals though cause I feel that I can more control over how the ball will react through drilling, especially when the MB rating is as strong as the Machine's core.

Hope this helps.
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