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Equipment Boards => Track => Topic started by: dw23 on June 14, 2008, 04:04:50 PM
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Anyone use the Rising at USBC? I am trying to find out what Track ball to use in team event.
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Thanks,
DW
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Im starting with mine tomarrow on the 8:30 pm shift ill udate tomarrow night.
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paul seay
track regional staff
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I used one @1000 in team reacted very nice with the recommended drilling
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Jeff Snuffer
Track Regional Staff
Vise Grips Regional Staff
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Just got back used mine in team event with 2000 surface and rec drilling, how a very good look
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Anyone know how much they are going for in the booth at Nationals?
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Thanks,
DW
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Well I just zoomed into the Track booth with the camera's. Couldn't quite read it it was eiter $224.95 or $229.95 for The Rising.
I used a 500 Grit Rising to burn up a spot with my team members and then went to a Kinetic Energy lightly hit with 1000. Did have to use The Rising for the first game of Doubles then went to the Kinetic Energy for the rest of Doubles and then Singles.
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Rick Guined
Track Regional Staff Player
Vise PBA Regional Staff Player
Edited on 6/16/2008 12:18 PM
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Didn't think about that. Thanks!
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Thanks,
DW
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I personally had my best look with the Kinetic Energy. I used the Kinetic late in team.
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Future OSL Raisin Caddy...
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Your KE was out of box finish?
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Thanks,
DW
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Used the Rising for all of team event except the first game. The first game was a train wreck. Had a good look with it but carry was a little iffy. I also have my Rising with a weaker layout, I wouldn't have been able to use the pin down layout without a lot of polish on it. Like Guined, the best look I had was the KE in singles and doubles. I had no problem hitting the 1-3, I was in the pocket after game 1 probably 90% but was lucky to carry 60% of those. Left seven pocket splits and a bunch of ring 10s. Speed control was critical due to the higher volume (50 mL).
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Louis Franzetti
Track Regional Staff Member
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Thanks for the info. I have been hearing that smoother equipment has been carrying better in team event. Don't know how true it is but my past experience with high entry angle at USBC tournaments is not very good.
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Thanks,
DW
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I used my rising in team game one way to strong {1000 surface} then switched to a ke and had a better look. singles and doubles used the same ke in singles and doubles. The carry this year is very tuff. You can get to the pocket very easy just hard to carry.I tried a kinetic and that went way to far didn't pick up a roll.
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paul seay
track regional staff
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My KE is box finish. My pin down rising was waaaay to strong. I have heard people score good inside but my best look came right around the second arrow. The only time I moved in very far was the last game of team when I switched to the kinetic and started the ball about 16 but only threw it out to 8. Doubles and singles I started playing straight up 7 with the KE and the deepest I got was 13 with the KE. In the minors I only threw the KE. I imagine with a pin up Rising you would probably be able to do the same thing and maybe open the lanes up a little bit more.
Good Luck!
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Future OSL Raisin Caddy...
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Wow, I had to play 25 out the gate in doubles and was in around 30 by the end of singles. I love playing in there and usually carry really well from there. But, my carry this year was bad from the outside angles in team event as well so who knows.
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Louis Franzetti
Track Regional Staff Member
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Sounds like it really depends on what pair you get what day (what else is new). It also sounds like the volume in team event isn't as heavy as most are making is sound. I really expected most would have used a Rising in Team with the aforementioned heavy volume.
Thanks for the comments everyone. I just love to discuss lane play.
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Thanks,
DW
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The volume is really heavy, 50 mL is about as high as they will run. The issue is that the pattern is relatively flat, the pattern is only 40 feet, and the backends are fresh. People confuse volume with length. You don't need a ball that rolls at your toes unless you are rev challenged.
As far as how the pattern plays and the time of year, I think this plays a big role here. The tournament started and it was 40 degrees outside there. Now is in 90+. The way the heating and cooling works in a big convention center like that can have a huge effect on how the pattern plays. I know that on every left lane we bowled on, you could feel the cooling system blowing air on you halfway up the approach. All of our left approaches were slippery and we weren't the only ones having this problem. With it being so dry out there and then blowing cold dry air on it, it got really slick. In the winter with the heat blowing, you have a little more humidity in there which also changes how they break down and carry down. Just what I got from talking to people and witnessing it. Jerry in the Track booth did seem to mention that the scores had gotten a little better since the weather warmed up but that is also when you big names and teams show up.
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Louis Franzetti
Track Regional Staff Member
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Oh no, not approach problems. I'm already having problems with my SST7 SE's sliding to much in centers around home.
I guess the dry backend is why a lot of people are having success with the Cell. It doesn't really roll early but has good entry angle when it comes off the oil and doesn't shoot the break. Hell I may be okay with my Mean Machine.
Thanks again,
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I took the circular spiked heel and turned i backwards so the spikes faced the pins and had plenty of break.
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Louis Franzetti
Track Regional Staff Member
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I'll try that along with my 6 sole that I punched holes in to make it a (make shift) 5 sole.
Thanks for the suggestions.