Post by: tenpinspro on November 23, 2005, 07:38:37 PM
Robo Rule - 4x3 5/8mb pin 3.25 above mid (over ring)..influenced by EXCALIBER and D PAT.
OOBDelta 1 - 4.25x4mb 1 7/8 above mid (under ring) OOB
GP2 - 5x3mb 3.25 above mid (over bridge) OOB and a little dirty right now..
Pattern: 34 buffed to 42 heavy centers, oil line at about 12-13 dry from 5-10
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I will have to reiterate my teammates here about the ball being "STRONG" yet "CONTROLLED". It is exactly the same reaction I got from this ball. Comparatively, I get the following and the vid shows this...
Robo vs Delta - rolls sooner with a little more overall hook, Delta will push downlane easier before turning over later and harder on the backend
Robo vs GP2 - rolls a little later but also looks stronger off the free hook while the GP2 rolls sooner and is smoother on the backend due to its heavier particle load.
Overall, very strong reaction and offers more control for a stronger rev to speed player like myself. When the GP tends to burn a little due to the lack of concentrated oil and the Delta is a tad too angular, this ball fits right in between. Great read and hit as you guys will see....enjoy fellas....
http://media.putfile.com/ROBOvsDELTAvsGP224
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Post by: onlybowling on November 24, 2005, 05:13:14 AM
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Post by: SteveAustin2808 on November 24, 2005, 06:16:59 AM
I was going to say, with the GP2 you mixed 'em really well. It almost looked like it burned up in the heads and sputtered out on the back end. The reaction shape of what yours was in the video was exactly how mine was after only 2-3 months of use. The Delta just looks plum sweet anyways. It's been about the same 2-3 months and the Delta is still a winner and still in my bag for league nights. I'm still hesistant about the Robo but it has curbed my curiousity, plus I have to save the money back for one before hand! Great vids Rick, God Bless you and have a safe holiday weekend!
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Post by: kc571 on November 24, 2005, 09:14:55 AM
As described, the GP2 burned out in the mid line, with no added back end.
It looked like you got the Delta a little further right too, thus the "over reaction (and the semi-nine pin).
But the Robo, got down the lane, chomping at the bit (to hook), and then finally went into its roll and crushed the hole.
Now, will you use the Robo instead of the GP2? If so, why? Less particle load?
Thx for the video...that's great that you take the time to show us!
Post by: Ramtart on November 24, 2005, 12:59:39 PM
I think it's a great idea that they put a light-load particle coverstock on ball with a weight block and core designed as dynamic as the one seen in the Robo Rule.
Light Load particle = Grab in oil, but not as much as Med-High Load
Core & Flipblock = Symmetric core surrounded by a U-Shaped Flip Block looks to be designed for a great backend reaction for a particle ball.
Damn you Rick! Why did you have to make this video...*contemplates busting open the piggy bank*
BTW - Happy Holidays everyone =)
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Post by: AdrianS on November 24, 2005, 05:35:44 PM
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Head to the totalbowling.com.au archive for my vid and lots of Aus Lefties too (look for Adrian Shelton down near the bottom)
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Post by: icetink on November 24, 2005, 07:05:35 PM
The Delta is clearly more angular, and that GP2 burned up pretty badly. I definitely need to get a Robo-Rule! It seems so much more versatile as it can be used on lanes that aren't quite flooded but still pretty heavy.
I can't wait to get one!
...and I'm just lovin' all these vids that everyone is putting out!
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Post by: Rock77 on November 25, 2005, 07:01:57 AM
That Robo looks sweet. I really like the ball reaction you got out of yours. Nice and controlled. I may have to get one of these on order.
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Post by: Rock77 on November 25, 2005, 10:48:30 AM
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Post by: Re-Evolution on November 25, 2005, 01:27:24 PM
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BTW, how can I save this file to my own pc??
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http://upload4.putfile.com/videos/b2-32703421964.wmv
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Post by: Rock77 on November 26, 2005, 09:33:34 AM
quote:quote:
BTW, how can I save this file to my own pc??
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http://upload4.putfile.com/videos/b2-32703421964.wmv
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That didnt work, I got an error message.
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Post by: Re-Evolution on November 26, 2005, 02:01:57 PM
It worked for me yesterday but I too get an error now. Putfile must have added a no download feature since I downloaded it. I will upload it to my server and post a link when I get home from work tonight, it will be quite late though since I won't get home til about 2am CST.
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Post by: Re-Evolution on November 27, 2005, 01:37:43 AM
right click save as
http://www.bowling-info.com/robo-delta-gp2.wmv
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Post by: shipper50 on November 27, 2005, 09:42:18 AM
Shipper
Post by: tenpinspro on November 28, 2005, 02:08:03 AM
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it looks like you played 15 to 8ish with all shots...
To a certain degree, my house shot has become very black and white in the break area to where anything slides in the middle and everything can hook from that dry area as well. It makes it a little difficult to truly tell differences on this type of shot but I tried to show you what I could.
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Now, will you use the Robo instead of the GP2? If so, why? Less particle load?
It'll depend on the shot. On this shot, I think I would use the Robo cause it gave me the best in between read, not too angular nor too straight.
Thanks for the comments guys, any other questions, feel free to ask. I'm going to try and do some more this week...starting my new job tomorrow though and then shop at nite so if I seem cranky, mean and rude, you'll know why...LOL.
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Post by: Jeffrevs on November 28, 2005, 06:39:59 AM
The Delta1 looked good too....bigger backend/sharper 12-5
The GP2 loped a bit, but still carried nice... 15-10 ..
Nice vids Rick....Robo looks great!!!!!!!
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Post by: Tweener92 on November 29, 2005, 01:06:18 PM
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Post by: tenpinspro on December 01, 2005, 02:29:16 AM
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Nice vids Rick....Robo looks great!!!!!!!
Thank you Mr Revs..coming from someone like you, this is quite an honor...
Oh, btw...it's the "BALL"...not me...lol
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Tweener, have you tried it again? I didn't remove it, it should still be there. If not, let me know and I can send it to your email, thanks.
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Post by: chitown on December 01, 2005, 06:42:01 AM
If you bowl in a league and are contemplating a new ball and are not sure your league uses heavy oil then watch what some of the other bowlers are using and try to gauge it like that. Don't forget to keep in mind the other bowlers ball speed, revs part of lane played ect... .
If there was heavier oil where rick shot this vid the GP2 would have hooked a little more than the Delta 1 for sure but would have probably been real close to the Robo Rule.
Great vid Rick. Vids help out many bowlers decide which ball to use. I choose the Delta 1 and am buying another one because of what I seen in the vids.
Post by: Tweener92 on December 01, 2005, 06:48:24 AM
Awesome vid man! You guys make everything look freaking great! Can't wait to see it in person in April.
StormTrack,
I'm with Shipper in saying thanks! For some reason I couldn't get it to work on putfile.
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Post by: chitown on December 05, 2005, 07:55:38 AM