Author Topic: Rule..... (Read 4704 times)

tenpinspro · « **on:** August 03, 2004, 07:17:23 PM »

I know this is premature because I only threw a few games with this but I have to tell you guys about this ball.

Specs: 4.25 x 4mb(strong pos), pin 3 inches up from midline over ring, out of box. I chose this pattern to see how strong the ball could be instead of mellowing it out like my other stuff.

For having a little higher rg, this ball revs up...a lot. It skids very cleanly thru any kind of headoil and at 45 ft, LOOK OUT! It just came charging back with authority. I threw it on the carry down lane (see pattern on that thread) where I had to tighten up with the FreakaZoid, Sheer and my Untamed but not this bad boy. I had 15 out on the carrydown lane, I'm not kidding, VERY IMPRESSIVE. I stood in the same spot, threw my Untamed(4.75 x 2.75mb) and the ball took out the 3-6 pocket while the Rule just kept coming back to the pocket. I moved 5 left, hit it little and it came back even harder...man, this ball was something else. One of friends was watching me(Hunt94501), maybe he'll jump in and tell you but all we could say was "wow". I'm definitely going to play with this ball some more before I post a mini. Didn't mention the O/U lane because that was just silly, it was making u-turns on that and smashing as well. So far it looks VERY nice....didn't see any hang from swinging deep inside while the other balls did....a "fluffer's" dream come true.

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Rock77 · « **Reply #1 on:** August 04, 2004, 10:19:14 AM »

Thanks Rick, you just answered all the questions I messaged to you. I think a Rule is in my near future. Are they available for sale yet??
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MTFD24 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 04, 2004, 10:19:23 AM »

Waiting for the Mini-Review. Sounds like it could be a very usefull addition to drill up. Thanks Rick

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Jeffrevs · « **Reply #3 on:** August 04, 2004, 10:20:47 AM »

Rick,
King of the mill saw Bob Learn throw this last week and also said it was going SIDEWAYS at 45!

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tenpinspro · « **Reply #4 on:** August 04, 2004, 10:31:18 AM »

Hey Jeff,

THIS ball would easily handle the med/heavy you asked of and with some kind of turn added to it, it's going to move pretty hard. I hate to make this comparison but it reminds me of my 1st urethane ball, where on the short oil back then, the ball literally out powered the condition. This was the first thought that came to mind...

Jeffrevs · « **Reply #5 on:** August 04, 2004, 10:38:30 AM »

Those type of moves scare me a bit though.....because I'm not very consistent...that kind of move makes it worse

I prefer/need a better mid-lane reading ball...w/ a touch less back...
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tenpinspro · « **Reply #6 on:** August 04, 2004, 10:45:23 AM »

Who's consistent? I said I had 15 out...and I used most of it..

The finish is still a strong arc, okay..very strong arc but it's not a late break that makes it uppredictable. That's why I mentioned the urethane, it wasn't jumpy either, just strong arcing as well.

BackToBasics · « **Reply #7 on:** August 04, 2004, 11:08:44 AM »

Rick, these were all in box surface? How did the surface of the Rule hold up? I know it was just a few games but sometimes you can easily tell if a ball will hold the surface or if it will start to self polish. It sounded like it got good length out of box.

tenpinspro · « **Reply #8 on:** August 04, 2004, 04:55:35 PM »

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Rick, these were all in box surface? How did the surface of the Rule hold up?

Yes they were all out of box. So far the Rule has held up nicely but it will take more games to see how long. I know what you mean, I saw the UI from Bruns polish up very quickly, like after 2 to 3 games.

With any kind of natural speed and "some" head oil, the Rule was getting down the lane very nicely for me. I think the pattern helped me a lot because I've been drilling most of my arsenal for control but decided to drill this stronger to see how much right room and backend I could create. Still just very impressed with the amount of recovery this ball offered. I'd say that you personally would have to use this on med/heavy to heavy only.

pnj1967 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 04, 2004, 08:30:09 PM »

Thanks Rick for the report, keep us posted. Can't wait for EX to report also.

T-Hob · « **Reply #10 on:** August 05, 2004, 02:16:21 PM »

So Rick, what about this ball being billed as an Unleashed with a reactive cover? It sounds like a great ball, but I already have an Animal and an Unleashed both of which are very strong. I use the Animal on fresh oil until it starts to carry down and then swith to the Unleashed and don't miss a beat. Would I be wasting time and money with the Rule?

Edited on 8/5/2004 2:10 PM

tenpinspro · « **Reply #11 on:** August 06, 2004, 10:40:46 AM »

T-Hob,

When you throw the Animal on the fresh shot, I would assume you have a fair amount of area down lane correct? For me, the Unleashed is a good carrydown ball after the Animal but imagine having the same amount of room(or more) in carrydown as you did with the Animal in fresh. That's about the best I can describe the Rule presently, being resin, it really sniffs out any dry boards and reacts off of it. As Mr. Munson saw me throw this on the current condition, it really opened up the backends without having to physically try and rev it up which is what I normally have to do to create that area down lane in the heavier carrydown. I actually think it will vary from bowler to bowler based on the thickness of oil that each of see at our houses. My house is using a 65+ density and when that pushes down the lane, some of my particle balls can't give me the same area as I had compared to when it is fresh/clean.

I personally do not feel this ball would be a waste in any sense. It is by far one of the stronger balls that can over power the lane conditions without forcing the bowler to do so.

On a side note, poor Mr Munson came all the way from Greece to see America. As of late, all he's seen is the inside of my shop(we left last nite at 1 am)..

We've had 2 1/2 days of classroom education (which I hope he can remember) and we just started to use some of that instruction yesterday. We plan to have another on-lane vid class as well, good news though, he can now help most in layouts and even explain your mass bias placements to you, right Roy?

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T-Hob · « **Reply #12 on:** August 06, 2004, 01:07:15 PM »

That's what I needed to hear. Looks like I'll be getting a Rule for my Fall leagues.

charlest · « **Reply #13 on:** August 06, 2004, 06:20:48 PM »

Makes me wonder just how different the Rule and the Bully are?
Right now, I'd guess ... very little.

New resin solid coverstock that makes it seem to work like a particle; both also have an asymmetric core. Hmmm!

And life goes on.

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Traumabill · « **Reply #14 on:** August 06, 2004, 10:58:11 PM »

Charlest,

You are correct in stating the coverstocks are identical.
The Bully's weight block is symmetrical however, Columbia was
able to get the cylinder and the cone to weigh out equal....
There's also no marked mass bias on the Bully, although at 6 3/4
from pin through the CG there would be one if needed....
Close but no cigar....

Bill
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