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ccrider

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what track uprising pin and top weight
« on: July 31, 2008, 03:40:42 PM »
I am going to order an uprising. I want to drill the ball to get through the heads during transition without burning out, with nice arc to pocket, not skid flip. I bowl on amf synthetic lanes. THS medium to medium heavy. Sometimes out of bounds outside of 5.

What pin and top weight should I order.

What drill pattern should I use.

Thanks

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Re: what track uprising pin and top weight
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2008, 11:45:58 PM »
I'd say just go with the recommended layout that Track provides with the ball.
From what I've seen, a ball with more top weight can get through the heads a little better than a ball with less top weight. For the pin, I'd say in the range of 2-4".
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Re: what track uprising pin and top weight
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2008, 02:30:33 AM »
Get a pin out and drill it with the pin above the fingers and get the MB out near your PAP. The ball gets through the heads so easy but it makes a rediculous flip to the pocket. With the MB out near the PAP it should calm down the flip. If not you can always take the cover to 4000 to smooth it out a little.
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Re: what track uprising pin and top weight
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2008, 07:07:19 AM »
To be honest with you, most of the ones I have seen has had lower top weights anyway. As long as you don't get an extremem ball (5 inch pin, 5 ounce top, etc) you should be ok and not need to request anything special. Statics are virtually meaningless when you have a 7 plus pound weight block driving the ball. Don't do anything exotic to the ball. I used a 70 degree drilling angle, five inch pin, pin wound up above my bridge. The ball is really clean through the fronts, rolls real heavy. I took it down to 2000 to slow down the backend motion.
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ccrider

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Re: what track uprising pin and top weight
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2008, 10:19:28 AM »
So, I guess I will request 2-4 inch pin, 2-3 oz top weight. I like to request at least a range so that I do not end up with something I can not use.

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Re: what track uprising pin and top weight
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2008, 10:28:33 AM »
Just curious, how does going from 4000 polish to 2000 abralon "slow down the back end motion." More roll and less angular off the dry?? Would be my guess. But I thought that by going down from 4000 to 2000 you would get more overall hook.

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To be honest with you, most of the ones I have seen has had lower top weights anyway. As long as you don't get an extremem ball (5 inch pin, 5 ounce top, etc) you should be ok and not need to request anything special. Statics are virtually meaningless when you have a 7 plus pound weight block driving the ball. Don't do anything exotic to the ball. I used a 70 degree drilling angle, five inch pin, pin wound up above my bridge. The ball is really clean through the fronts, rolls real heavy. I took it down to 2000 to slow down the backend motion.
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Re: what track uprising pin and top weight
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2008, 10:32:02 AM »
You might look at the #5 Drilling it will provide length and a controlled backend reaction. Even though it says put the M.B. on the VAL, I would keep it just inside the VAL. After having a discussion with Carl at the Launch Party it's my understanding that with the core size and weight the ball can do some funny things if you get the M.B on the VAL or outside of it. Like inverting your flare pattern.
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Re: what track uprising pin and top weight
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2008, 10:33:52 AM »
By changing the surface from 4000 to 2000 the ball will expend energy sooner in the lane causing it slow down and not be so angular.
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Re: what track uprising pin and top weight
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2008, 10:47:57 AM »
Exactly, going from 4000 with polish to 2000 with none will cause the ball to read a touch quicker and not be so angular. Depending on the pattern length, backend strength, oil volume, either ball could give you more total hook. If the backends are ripping, the 4000 with polish may hook more, on other patterns, it may not.

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