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Title: Solution PPEX vs. Solution PP
Post by: FastTracker33 on July 05, 2006, 02:42:32 PM
hello everybody i had a question for these two balls. i am having trouble choosing between which one to get. so i was wondering could a Solution PPEX be as strong as the PP (drilled, surface change, etc)?
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-Brian
Title: Re: Solution PPEX vs. Solution PP
Post by: TWOHAND834 on July 05, 2006, 10:47:22 PM
Maybe...but why would you want to try?  What are you trying to accomplish?  Something skid/flip or earlier and smoother?  If you want clean through the heads and good backend, go with the PPEX.  IF you want earlier midlane and continuous, but more predictable backend reaction, go with the Purple PP.  OMG...did I just say that?
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Title: Re: Solution PPEX vs. Solution PP
Post by: FastTracker33 on July 05, 2006, 10:53:35 PM
could the PPEX be drilled to have a skid/flip reaction?
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-Brian

Edited on 7/5/2006 10:50 PM
Title: Re: Solution PPEX vs. Solution PP
Post by: TWOHAND834 on July 05, 2006, 11:00:39 PM
That is what the PPEX is designed for.  If you remember the older Hex Track released back in 1999-2000, it is essentially the same ball.  It is designed to be skid/flip on lighter conditions.  It will not like heavier oil.
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Steven Vance
Former Pro Shop Operator

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Title: Re: Solution PPEX vs. Solution PP
Post by: SteveAustin2808 on July 05, 2006, 11:02:59 PM
Hey Brian,

These two are a perfect 1-2 combo. However, if you are needing it to handle some oil I would go with the Solid. If you desire backend then I would choose the EX. I had both of these balls drilled with a 5" Pin Above the Ring Finger and they reacted totally different. The EX got more length while the Solid cut through the oil better. When the backends weren't booming, I pulled out the EX and the backend was simply amazing. The EX to me is a very skid/snap ball to begin with also! I hope this helps buddy! God Bless You and have a great week!
--Michael--
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Title: Re: Solution PPEX vs. Solution PP
Post by: FastTracker33 on July 05, 2006, 11:10:05 PM
yes that helps very much.. thank you
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-Brian
Title: Re: Solution PPEX vs. Solution PP
Post by: charlest on July 06, 2006, 03:11:42 PM
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That is what the PPEX is designed for.  If you remember the older Hex Track released back in 1999-2000, it is essentially the same ball.  It is designed to be skid/flip on lighter conditions.  It will not like heavier oil.
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Former Pro Shop Operator

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Sorry, Steve. For me, that is just not the case. I have a Track Hex and a Solution PP Ex. While the PP Ex is slightly drilled weaker (5"x4", pin between the finger holes), the pin on the Hex ia actually a lot higher (just over the ring finger, with CG stacked below, a 4.5" x 4" for me.) and it's got traction like studded snow tires. I think there must be a lot higher percentage load or just larger particles in Hex than there  might be in the Solution PP Ex (if there are any at all). Ples the Hex hooks a LOT more (besides earlier) than the SOlution PP Ex. BTW the Hex core has a higher RG differential.
 
I think if you drilled them the same or even similar, they'd be a 1-2 combiantion: when the Hex is too early or too much, go to the Solution PP Ex. When the PP Ex is skidding too far or pinging 10/7 pins or can't make the turn, then bring out the Hex.

I use the Hex on medium oil PLUS carrydown. I use the Solution PP Ex on medium-light oil.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Title: Re: Solution PPEX vs. Solution PP
Post by: clintdaley on July 06, 2006, 03:28:08 PM
The 2 Solutions are a great 1-2 combo. While it may be possible to get the reaction out of the Ex you want by dulling it,etc, the solid Solution is a much better choice for oil. The Ex can and will be very flippy...the ball is that way by itself and if you put the pin 5+ inches from your PAP, you have something that will really flip for you if there is enough dry.

I have an idea...since you are a member of my site, y if you buy 2 balls, you knock $5 off of each, which means both would be $120 plus actual shipping to you...why not try both?

Clint
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Lets Go Bowling Daley
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Salem, Ohio 44460

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Title: Re: Solution PPEX vs. Solution PP
Post by: FastTracker33 on July 06, 2006, 03:51:47 PM
that sounds like a good deal clint, but i dont really have that money right now, then again i will still be buying that Ex off you that your selling (because thats what i have enough money for)
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-Brian
Title: Re: Solution PPEX vs. Solution PP
Post by: clintdaley on July 06, 2006, 03:58:55 PM
Yeah....IF THEY EVER DELIVER the 2nd part of my shipment.....

Clint
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Lets Go Bowling Daley
Inside Hunt Club Lanes
Salem, Ohio 44460

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Title: Re: Solution PPEX vs. Solution PP
Post by: FastTracker33 on July 06, 2006, 03:59:32 PM
lol
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-Brian
Title: Re: Solution PPEX vs. Solution PP
Post by: FastTracker33 on July 06, 2006, 10:30:09 PM
could some one please tell why my Solution doesnt hook? It's drilled like this

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/TheOne9110/Mybowlingballs002.jpg

It doesnt roll smooth at all i HATE IT!
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-Brian
Title: Re: Solution PPEX vs. Solution PP
Post by: charlest on July 07, 2006, 05:26:02 AM
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could some one please tell why my Solution doesnt hook? It's drilled like this

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/TheOne9110/Mybowlingballs002.jpg

It doesnt roll smooth at all i HATE IT!
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-Brian


I can't believe it doesn't roll smooth. Does it skid/snap?

Looks like it's drilled to be VERY early and with zero snap and virtually zero skid. That's an EXTREMELY condition specific drill.
Who suggested that and why did you drill it that way?
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Title: Re: Solution PPEX vs. Solution PP
Post by: clintdaley on July 07, 2006, 06:15:49 AM
That drill is exactly what Charlest said in his post....great for the condition, but very condition specific.

Clint
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Lets Go Bowling Daley
Inside Hunt Club Lanes
Salem, Ohio 44460

Track Pro Shop staff
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www.letsgobowlingdaley.com







Title: Re: Solution PPEX vs. Solution PP
Post by: FastTracker33 on July 07, 2006, 11:59:07 AM
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quote:
could some one please tell why my Solution doesnt hook? It's drilled like this

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/TheOne9110/Mybowlingballs002.jpg

It doesnt roll smooth at all i HATE IT!
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-Brian


I can't believe it doesn't roll smooth. Does it skid/snap?

Looks like it's drilled to be VERY early and with zero snap and virtually zero skid. That's an EXTREMELY condition specific drill.
Who suggested that and why did you drill it that way?
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."


Actually i didn't ask to drill it that way. The ball was given to me and i had no clue it was being drilled that way. Actually it is not an early roll, and theres one condition i found it good for.. DRY Lanes and that's it.
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-Brian
Title: Re: Solution PPEX vs. Solution PP
Post by: charlest on July 07, 2006, 02:36:07 PM
Brian,

My opinon: I think you ought to redrill it. As it is, it's all but useless.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Title: Re: Solution PPEX vs. Solution PP
Post by: FastTracker33 on July 07, 2006, 02:38:49 PM
yes i think i should, i'm buying one off clint instead i think because i have certain things i want to do with that one. i forgot to add that the ball also when it rolls it wobbles and the weight hole isn't stable in one spot, and i know thats not just me because i have a weight hole on all of my balls.
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-Brian
Title: Re: Solution PPEX vs. Solution PP
Post by: SteveAustin2808 on July 07, 2006, 03:06:55 PM
Hey Brian,

If I were you buddy here is what I would do. The Solution you have now I would re-plug and re-drill back to the way it was first laid out. It is pretty much Pin Below, it makes the core shorter and revs up in the heads quicker and has a smoothed out reaction on the backend. If you are purchasing a new one from Clint I would give that one a Pin Above type layout. This will make the core taller thus, it will skate through the heads and have most of its energy retention for the backend. Then I would throw both of them and see if you notice a difference in reaction because you should. Hope this helps some buddy! God Bless You and have a great week!

--Michael--
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