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dw23

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Super Freak or Phenom
« on: September 03, 2003, 05:42:58 AM »
I already have the Super Freak and I love it for those heavier oiled shots when you need to play more direct. I was wondering if the Phenom would give me a similar reaction but more recovery so I can move a little deeper inside on the heavier conditions. I also wondered if one went a little longer than the other. Can these balls coexist in the same arsenal?
Any help would be appreciated.
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DW

Edited on 9/3/2003 8:53 PM
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Re: Super Freak or Phenom
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2003, 09:50:04 PM »
I had a Super Freak and sold it because I did not think that I would see enough oil in the house I will be bowling primarily in this year. I was wrong, so I picked up a Phenom-------I was going to get the Phenom anyways because the ball just looked too awesome to pass up.

Both balls are great. Just finished my first league with the Phenom tonight and it did very well----when the bowler put it where it had to be. It gets great length for a ball that has such an aggressive coverstock. It gets down the lane much further than the SF. These 2 balls can easily coexist. The SF rolls up sooner, and for me, played better when I was playing straight up the boards. I am going to have to hit 60ft of oil before I will be able to square up with the Phenom.

The Phenom recovers great when playing across alot of boards. The league I used it on tonight had heavy oil in the heads and the backends were flying to start. I had to play standing on 35 hitting 18 at the arrows and ran the ball out to about 7. I have thrown many dull balls before, but never would recover from this far and still have enough energy left to be strong at the pins. In the 2nd game the oil carried down, I moved to RT to 30 board hitting 16 at the arrows and playing out to 7 board. It handled the carrydown better than any ball I have thrown.

The jury is still out on the Phenom, I cannot give a honest "review" until I have used it for several games. So far though, this ball works great.

On the same pattern last year with the Super Freak, I was standing 25 to start (remember, the SF is not as angular at the breakpoint) hitting 14 running out to 8 board. When the oil carried down I was standing on 19-21 board (usually) and playing 12 out to 8.

So these two balls gave me 2 totally different looks on the lane. The Phenom seems to be stronger at the pins, and probably playable on different patterns where if there was not enough oil outside because I was playing straighter the Super Freak would roll up probably 5 ft sooner.



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dw23

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Re: Super Freak or Phenom
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2003, 04:19:31 AM »
Thanks for the help Ex.
One question. Did you have the SF and the Phenom drilled differently? Just trying to get a true comparison.

Any experience from anyone else would be great.
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DW
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Re: Super Freak or Phenom
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2003, 04:34:43 AM »
May not be much help, but i had a phenom and a SF drilled up today, only bowled about 3 games with them, and i agree that the SF starts up a HELL OF A LOT earlier. I had to put the SF away cause it was rolling out and wasnt giving me much of a first impression, will report back on that when i have encountered more oil. The phenom definitly looks like it will hook more, but the length that it gets was able to combat the dry heads without rolling out, an excellent feature in my eyes.

Ide go with a phenom, can recover from anywhere.

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Re: Super Freak or Phenom
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2003, 09:08:57 AM »
Bowled last night with two guys with Phenoms.

One smaller handed with dull surface playing a small swing.

One bigger handed with polish.

I see the ball in the Mutant class.  Or the EZ money class.

Just below your heaviest oiler but with backend.

I was impressed with the polished use and think it is a super piece!

The SF is definetely a very heavy oiler with a very strong coverstock.

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Re: Super Freak or Phenom
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2003, 01:01:33 PM »
The Super Freak was drilled with a 4 in. pin from PAP and the Phenom is drilled with a 3 3/4 in. pin from PAP-----I put the MB in the same location on each. So they were drilled very close.
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Re: Super Freak or Phenom
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2003, 06:24:56 PM »
Thanks for the info.
It looks like the Phenom will be the perfect fit between the Super Freak and the Freak Out. When I need a ball for medium heavy oil and recovery I can go with the Phenom.

The arsenal will look like this:
Super Freak
Phenom
Freak Out
Revmaster
Red Stomp (Polished)
Blue Sensor
Volcano R
Sugar Ray Leonard (Boxing Glove)

Back Ups:
Champ
Thrash
Spell
Hextreme
Hex
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Re: Super Freak or Phenom
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2003, 12:19:23 AM »
No problem dw

I see you have the Revmaster before the Thrash......I should really try that ball. I like my Thrask alot.
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Re: Super Freak or Phenom
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2003, 03:50:32 AM »
Yeah, I like my Revmaster a lot. I seem to be able to stay with it longer than the Thrash. I actually like the Spell a little more than the Thrash. I can stay with it longer and I still carry well on the deep inside lines.
DW
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