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Equipment Boards => Track => Topic started by: BowlingDude300 on July 18, 2004, 10:04:22 PM
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I currently own a Super Freak. Had it for a long time and I bet it doesnt even have 30 games on it. Well, track is coming for a clinic August 5th. I am going to be picking up a Animal Untamed then. I was wondering whats the difference between the 2? Like reaction, etc... Also, after I get the untamed, would I even need the Super Freak any more? I would really like to down size my arsenal. LMK. Thanks in advance for all in put.
Kyle
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Well the ONE main difference is that the Untamed is reactive, the Super Freak is particle. The RG is higher on the Super Freak. Higher differential on the Untamed.
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Thanks BK.
Anyone owned both? If so what was the difference in reactions?
Thanks.
Kyle
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Well, just a hunch, but I'd say just as a general rule of thumb the Untamed will go considerably longer, and snap harder, whereas the Super Freak arcs. (at least guessing by the coverstocks though)
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16 years and still going strong! 16 years old that is!
The names Warrior Princess, Xena..Warrior Princess
And why would I "saw" pins in half, THATS A WASTE OF PINS!
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Which will handle more oil? The super freak right? WEll, I was wondering since I dont think I have ever seen heavy oil and prolly never will. B/c to me tournaments seem to be more of a medium/heavy. So, could I get a way with using untamed for tournament shots and selling super freak? Also, which is stronger? Thanks.
Kyle
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Lifes a GAME . . . Bowling is SERIOUS!
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Any real opinions? I need serious input. Thanks.
Kyle
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The Super Freak will handle more oil. As aggressive as the AU may be, the SF will roll earlier for you and handle oil much better then the AU will. Especially when conditions are flooded.
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Any other recommendations?
Kyle
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I have owned both balls. The Super Freak is a higher load particle with a weaker weight block. The SF is for people with slower ball speeds and big hook players. The Untamed is a reactive Mutant (a lot of Track fans wanted this) and my favorite ball. It is a skid/flipper that has a little mid-lane roll to it. Carries way better than my Inferno and I liked that ball. This is (and I mean it) the best carrying ball that I have owned and I try a lot of product. Got a 5X3 drilling w/ weight hole 1/2" below PAP on VAL - mass bias 4" positive axis point. The Super Freak also needs a ton of oil, if I were you I'd go with the Untamed. Let me know how you make out, I'll pass it on to Del.
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Thanks LB. That helps a lot! I'll be sure to make a new post once I get it and have it drilled.
Kyle
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Kyle,
Overall....the Animal Untamed is a more versatile ball. It can be used on alot of oil as long as you match the coverstock grit to the condition you will be using it on. Unless you adjust the coverstock accordingly I do not see it being much of a skid/flip ball. It reads the midlanes far too well to be a skid/flip.
The Super Freak is a particle and more of an Arc type reaction. I have seen a few drilled up with longer layouts and they did not work well. Drilled to roll early...it is an excellent heavy oil ball. The core is weaker than the core in the A.U.
All in all----my opinion the Untamed would be used much more.....but sand the Super Freak down to like 600 grit and use it as a tournament ball when you have heavy oil. If you do not face the heavy stuff that much atleast it will be there when you do.
goodluck with your decision, if you have any other questions, message me,
-EX-
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Owner/Operator
C-G Pro Shop
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Been waiting for you to post EX.
BTW, the Super Freak is currently at 320 Grit. So, You guys think the AU at box surface would work on medium-heavy?
Kyle
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Kyle,
Box surface with an aggressive enough layout, yes definately medium/heavy. With the box finish it would have difficulty performing on the heavy stuff. It will cover med-med/heavy for you very well.
-EX-
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Owner/Operator
C-G Pro Shop
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Hey Kyle,
Again, I completely agree with Ex. My AU definately reads the mids too quick to be a skid/flip ball. I believe the Rule may have a little more of that characteristic. The SF rolls earlier for me with less backend than the AU. Remember, we are comparing high load particle to resin also. That's the way it should be. Hope this helps bud...
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Rick Leong
Ten Pins Pro Shop
Track Amateur/Pro Shop Staff
Vise Grip Staff
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Thanks Ex and Ten! I can't wait to get the untamed! I'll make a post of my thoughts about it once I get it.
Kyle
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