Author Topic: The animal vs. Ultimate Inferno (Read 7851 times)

lilphyzx · « **on:** September 20, 2004, 11:30:18 AM »

Hey fellas which one of these balls is the better ball and why? Which is better on oil and so forth.

icetink · « **Reply #1 on:** September 20, 2004, 07:42:04 PM »

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Well the Animal is Particle and the Ultimate Inferno is not...

What he's trying to say is that the Animal will destroy the Ultimate Inferno on oil any day

(at least from what I've seen)! Because the Ultimate Inferno is a resin, it requires dry to work well. The Animal on the other hand is continuously gripping the lane (because of the particles) and will provide a better midlane roll and overall hook.

Because you posted in the Track forum, I'd think most of the answers you'll get would lean towards the Animal being the better ball, and if you post in the Brunswick forum, you might receive completely different answers. However, from what I've seen, the Animal is a much more impressive heavy oil ball (if that's what you're interested in).
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lilphyzx · « **Reply #2 on:** September 20, 2004, 08:16:17 PM »

Thanks fellas, I was just trying to make sure I picked the right ball. I recently purchased one of these for heavy oil but havent had a chance to throw it yet. I havent seen one thrown on heavy oil but I did see a UI fade away on a heavy shot when a guy threw it.

lilphyzx · « **Reply #3 on:** September 20, 2004, 08:17:41 PM »

I do know that one is particle and the other is not. I understand that already I should have been more specific. I was more interested in how each perform on oil. Thanks much guys.

lilphyzx · « **Reply #4 on:** September 20, 2004, 08:22:06 PM »

I understand my brother, I understand. How do you guys have yours drilled.

a_ak57 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 20, 2004, 08:26:34 PM »

This isn't criticism, but how coming your asking if it's the better ball after you bought it? Though for quote unquote "handling oil", the animal would be better. For the reasons supplied.

As for drilling, I heard a rumor that morpheus cores do better with the pin under the ring, so you might lean that way. Not sure if there's any truth to that. But likely, that'd be the better option anyways. Mabye you could do like a 4x4 or something? But what are your style/stats? That will help a lot.
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lilphyzx · « **Reply #6 on:** September 20, 2004, 08:33:28 PM »

Well ive always wanted a UI because I know so many guys that live and die by the ball. I look for more performance with control overall. True I did purchase it before I asked but I didnt really think about posting anyting till i start browsing the site. I am a stroker or tweener, I put a descent amount of revs on the ball. It generally depends on the ball. i can play it slow and stroke it to the pocket or I can give it some turn to the pocket. I usually like playing down ten or out to ten depending on what the lanes gives me. Alot of my equipment is drilled stack leverage or pin almost even with the fingers.

icetink · « **Reply #7 on:** September 20, 2004, 10:20:45 PM »

I'd suggest a strong drilling, ie. 4x3 drilling for the Animal. If you get it sanded to 800-grit it'll be so strong, maybe too strong that you'll only be able to use it on floods. I'd say go with a 4x3 drilling and see how it reacts with out of the box finish. If you need more midlane, sand it down a bit. I'd also suggest keeping the pin under the fingers to help the ball start up earlier in the midlane. The ball is meant to start up early, so by drilling the pin above the fingers, it'll be going against what the ball is meant for!
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-Dino

tenpinspro · « **Reply #8 on:** September 21, 2004, 06:28:05 AM »

Hey lilp,

The 2 balls you ask of are really in 2 different classes. The Animal being particle can handle much heavier oil compared to a resin. If you wanted to compare resins, then you'd be looking at the Rule. The Rule out performs the UI easily. The UI isn't a bad ball but the Rule is just a lot more ball in comparison. Why settle for 5 boards on the backend when you can have 10...check out my vids on the Rule bud.

http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=61546&ForumID=14&CategoryID=2

I personally don't believe any ball is "bad", there's a time and place for everything.
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Rick Leong
Ten Pins Pro Shop
Track Intl. - Amateur/Pro Shop Staff
Vise Inserts Staff

bowlerstyle · « **Reply #9 on:** September 21, 2004, 06:37:09 AM »

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I'd also suggest keeping the pin under the fingers to help the ball start up earlier in the midlane.

lilphyzx, FYI: If you put the pin under the fingers with a really aggressive ball, and you track just a little bit close to the fingers then almost 95% of the time the bowler will track over his/her middle finger. So don't forget to take that into consideration.

tenpinspro · « **Reply #10 on:** September 21, 2004, 06:52:31 AM »

Hey bowlerstyle,

Not necessarily true on the Morpheus cores. So long as the mb is placed in a position to assist the flare and desired motion of the ball, the ball won't track over the middle finger. If the mb were placed in a weak position(near track/left of thumb), then maybe it would. We have a lot of guys here who thought the same thing and I'm sure they'll chime in also on this.
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Rick Leong
Ten Pins Pro Shop
Track Intl. - Amateur/Pro Shop Staff
Vise Inserts Staff

bowlerstyle · « **Reply #11 on:** September 21, 2004, 07:00:40 AM »

Well with my experience, I've seen that happen a lot so I don't know. I don't think I've put the mass bias in a weak position though. That would make sense, because if the mb is away from the track, it'll flare more, thus creating it to go over your middle finger. I'll have to try one in the weak position now to see if this holds true.

lilphyzx · « **Reply #12 on:** September 21, 2004, 11:56:45 AM »

Hey fellas I was considering a stack leverage drill or maybe pin low with the cg kicked out. THose drills have always performed pretty good for me. I usually track right next to my finger grips on the left side, maybe about 2inches from them.

icetink · « **Reply #13 on:** September 21, 2004, 03:37:58 PM »

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So which ball did you buy?

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Hey fellas I just recently purchased the animal. Ive never had track products before so im going on sheer posts and the specs on this ball. What do you guys think of its capabilities on heavy oil. How does it backend and what are the overall thoughts of it. Sorry if it has been posted before.

from http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=63259&ForumID=14&CategoryID=2
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-Dino

C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #14 on:** September 21, 2004, 03:49:59 PM »

Rick....here is your ****CHIME****

bowlerstyle, before changing my release I used to track about 1/4-1/2 of an inch from the fingers and thumb....and you are correct if I placed the pin below the finger line on anything I would track over the middle finger. HOWEVER, with MANY different layouts and MB placements on the morpheous core stuff I went as much as 1- 1 3/4 of an inch below the finger line and never tracked over the finger hold. I was very reluctant to do this, but Del suggested it and told me not to worry. He also said that the Morpheous has been known to lower a bowler's track about 2 inches.

MY TAKE ON THE Ultimate Inferno and ANIMAL
I had an Ultimate Inferno and it is nowhere near what the Animal is in oil. I absolutely had to have dry backends in order to get the Ultimate Inferno to move. As far as heavy oil goes, the Animal is in a class all by itself.

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Youngstown Ohio

Track Intl.-Advisory Staff

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