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The Rising, Temper, Kinetic
« on: June 26, 2007, 08:11:17 PM »
I got a chance to see and throw these at the demo day at Texas Station.

The Rising - https://www.buddiesproshop.com/files/5686.jpg
Temper - https://www.buddiesproshop.com/files/5688.jpg
Kinetic - https://www.buddiesproshop.com/files/5687.jpg

The Rising is more the color of the Original Critical Mass.  This ball has an Asymmetrical core in it, but no core pictures are being released.  All the Track balls are only setup for Right Handed bowlers due to the limited number of balls that were produced so far.  I threw the Right Handed ball (I am Left Handed).  The ball has a new layout in it, at least for a demo day ball.  The pin was in the center of the palm, and the Mass Bias was in the Finger Quadrant area.  I threw some shots with the ball and this ball was long and very aggressive at the break point for me.  I am sure with a leftie layout this ball will be a monster.

Both the Temper and Kinetic had Mass Bias markings on the balls.  Both balls were polished.  Both balls had normal Mass Bias layouts in them.  I threw a couple of shots with each ball, but with the balls being laid out for the opposite hand, I couldn't tell the first clue as to what these balls will do.  Sorry.
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Re: The Rising, Temper, Kinetic
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2007, 10:46:45 AM »
Here's a quote that was left on the Columbia 300 page:

In the new catalogue this is what they say about the brand characteristics and personalities:
Columbia 300
Strong midlane and continuous ball motion across the entire product line. A cool legend that's back.

Ebonite
Versatile ball motion across the entire product line. A sophisticated brand that knows it's way around the lanes.

Hammer
Aggressive ball motion across the entire product line. You don't become a Hammer bowler. You either are one, or you're not.

Track
Skid/Flip ball motion across the entire product line. The perfect science for victory.


The fact that track is going to be nothing but skid/flip ball reactions explains why Wes is back with columbia. They can't really have him be out on tour with nothing but equipment that goes sideways.

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Re: The Rising, Temper, Kinetic
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2007, 02:02:55 PM »
The Temper is'nt going to be a skid/flip ball! The literature that Ebonite sent me on all the new equipment list the Kinetic as skid/flip, the Temper as control/power it's more of a strong arc. The Rising can be drilled for skid/flip or arc with the new weight block that uses a very strong intermediate differential. You get the best of both world with The Rising! Thanks, Bruce
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Re: The Rising, Temper, Kinetic
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2007, 02:29:35 PM »
i hope they really dont try to make all the track balls with a skid/flip reaction, because i would definately have to look elsewhere for my balls, thats just not my comfort zone
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Re: The Rising, Temper, Kinetic
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2007, 02:38:08 PM »
I hear the Rising is a very good ball by the people that threw it at the demo days but you better have a top notch driller or it will never be layed out correctly.

They are going to have drilling seminars for almost any driller to completely understand the ball dynamic's. This ball makes laying out a No mercy look easy as pie

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Re: The Rising, Temper, Kinetic
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2007, 10:48:13 PM »
Well i dont know about anyone else but if Track's stuff becomes predominantly skid/flip i am going to love all this new stuff. I currently have four Track balls and one i need to re-drill and that is all i throw! I tried another weight as well as other brands and honestly nothing hit like my 16lb Track stuff. But is it true that the Kinetic is only going to be in 14 and 15??? I read that on another post and that ball sounds like it will fall in line right with the Power Machine i am ordering. Anyone else hear/ know about this?
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Re: The Rising, Temper, Kinetic
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2007, 10:50:56 PM »
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This ball makes laying out a No mercy look easy as pie


Actually, the No Mercy IS one of the easiest balls to layout lol.
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Re: The Rising, Temper, Kinetic
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2007, 10:59:02 PM »
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    quote:This ball makes laying out a No mercy look easy as pie

Actually, the No Mercy IS one of the easiest balls to layout lol.


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Re: The Rising, Temper, Kinetic
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2007, 11:03:45 PM »
The Track stuff is not going to be skid/flip as much as it is going to have strong backend. I know this sounds conflicting, but if any of the folks that threw the Rising at the product showcase could talk to you about this ball you would hear: It rolls....but it still turns the corner hard. Knowing what I know about the Rising and the layout scheme, it can be skid/flip or it can roll very early. The Kenetic skid and flips better than anything I have seen, including the Power Machine. The Temper is not skid/flip, but it retains energy down lane very well.

The Layout system on the Rising is not difficult. 360* drill system makes it easy.....and it gives the ball driller many options to give the bowler the reation he/she wants.


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Re: The Rising, Temper, Kinetic
« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2007, 01:23:58 AM »
To add a comment about the pictures:

The Kenetic and the Temper look exactly like the photos listed.....but the Rising looks nothing like that pictures, it looks more like this:

http://www.123bowl.com/ball.asp?ballid=174
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Re: The Rising, Temper, Kinetic
« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2007, 02:17:54 AM »
Carl,

So, what do you say about the picture of the Red Kinetic that's been floating around?  And to say the Kinetic is a better skid/flip ball than the PM?  Wow, that's an extremely bold statement, especially considering what I've seen my PM do-especially after the re-drill.  I was interested in only the Rising, but I just may have to add the Kinetic to this.  So, the Rising looks just like the CM?  I was hoping for a brand new look-but oh well.

Thanks for the info again, Carl.  As always.
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Re: The Rising, Temper, Kinetic
« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2007, 10:07:05 AM »
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So, what do you say about the picture of the Red Kinetic that's been floating around? And to say the Kinetic is a better skid/flip ball than the PM? Wow, that's an extremely bold statement, especially considering what I've seen my PM do-especially after the re-drill. I was interested in only the Rising, but I just may have to add the Kinetic to this. So, the Rising looks just like the CM? I was hoping for a brand new look-but oh well.



I have seen quite a few Kenetics and none of them were that red. I do however see a hint of red. It may just show up as much as it did on that picture simply due to the light.
All of you folks know how much I liked the Power Machine. It was my favorite ball of the last year or so. The Kenetic goes down the lane looking like a plastic ball and then turns like nothing I have seen before. It is a 5 and 2 move left with my feet compared to my TNV drilled identically.

The Rising looks identical to the CM. I do not think this is a bad thing due to tradition. The Rising is a very unique ball. You could drill up 3 of these and cover almost every condtion you will face, that is how versatile it is.

I honestly believe that all 3 of the new balls are must haves.

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Re: The Rising, Temper, Kinetic
« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2007, 08:37:55 PM »
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http://www.blockbusterbowling.com/catalog/CatalogMgr.pl?cartID=b-4130&SearchField=category&SearchFor=TRballs&template=Htx/deptballs.htx&hdr=Track%20Balls&displayNumber=10

Here's more visual of what the 3 balls will look like.



it says skid/flip ball reaction for all 3 balls, but also says early roll for The Rising
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Re: The Rising, Temper, Kinetic
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2007, 07:16:00 PM »
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The Track stuff is not going to be skid/flip as much as it is going to have strong backend. I know this sounds conflicting, but if any of the folks that threw the Rising at the product showcase could talk to you about this ball you would hear: It rolls....but it still turns the corner hard. Knowing what I know about the Rising and the layout scheme, it can be skid/flip or it can roll very early. The Kenetic skid and flips better than anything I have seen, including the Power Machine. The Temper is not skid/flip, but it retains energy down lane very well.

The Layout system on the Rising is not difficult. 360* drill system makes it easy.....and it gives the ball driller many options to give the bowler the reaction he/she wants.


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I can't really expunge on much more information but I'm in a little deeper in the business than most of you might think.  Ebonite is an incredible company..

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Re: The Rising, Temper, Kinetic
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2007, 07:25:08 PM »
Yes, I know.  People always have to keep things G-14 classified around here...
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