Post by: BuddiesProShopcom - Bill on June 26, 2007, 08:11:17 PM
The Rising - https://www.buddiesproshop.com/files/5686.jpg
Temper - https://www.buddiesproshop.com/files/5688.jpg
Kinetic - https://www.buddiesproshop.com/files/5687.jpg
The Rising is more the color of the Original Critical Mass. This ball has an Asymmetrical core in it, but no core pictures are being released. All the Track balls are only setup for Right Handed bowlers due to the limited number of balls that were produced so far. I threw the Right Handed ball (I am Left Handed). The ball has a new layout in it, at least for a demo day ball. The pin was in the center of the palm, and the Mass Bias was in the Finger Quadrant area. I threw some shots with the ball and this ball was long and very aggressive at the break point for me. I am sure with a leftie layout this ball will be a monster.
Both the Temper and Kinetic had Mass Bias markings on the balls. Both balls were polished. Both balls had normal Mass Bias layouts in them. I threw a couple of shots with each ball, but with the balls being laid out for the opposite hand, I couldn't tell the first clue as to what these balls will do. Sorry.
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Post by: williewc on June 27, 2007, 05:33:55 AM
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Post by: Xcessive_Evil on June 27, 2007, 10:26:30 AM
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the Temper looks better than the other 2, gonna have to pick that one up
Lol. I remember when that was my only criteria in buying a ball back in the day.
Based on looks, The rising looks the worst among the three, not that any of them "looks" good anyway. But then again, I've not seen these face to face, so I shouldn't be so judgemental yet. For what type of ball the rising is supposed to be, I'd really like to see some video on it before I buy it.
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Post by: freak761 on June 27, 2007, 12:36:11 PM
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Post by: Traumabill on June 27, 2007, 01:23:23 PM
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Post by: ElectricLeftSlider on June 27, 2007, 02:41:03 PM
Post by: HAMMERDOWN103 on June 27, 2007, 07:29:36 PM
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Post by: BuddiesProShopcom - Bill on June 27, 2007, 08:12:35 PM
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Wow!! No balls made yet for the lefty's.. Very interesting!!
They have tons of Righties throwing the balls at the Demo day, and they have only made a couple of balls so far, so they didn't have enough to do leftie layouts.
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Post by: Lillen on June 28, 2007, 09:54:33 AM
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Post by: Xcessive_Evil on June 28, 2007, 10:18:55 AM
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Weeks of bowling withdrawl-3
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on June 28, 2007, 07:13:15 PM
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The hell? Okay, one Kinetic is blue, the other is red. Whatthefuxup with that? lol
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The one I saw in person was black and blue.
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Definitely not doubting that. Just that this thread had two seperate pics as I'm sure you saw. In any event, I'd want the red one-and that's only because I don't have any red balls, and have way too many blue ones. That didn't come out right. lol
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High series-796
My summer leagues have ended early due to a wrist injury. Out 4-6 weeks.
Weeks of bowling withdrawl-3
Post by: urbanshaft on June 29, 2007, 05:32:20 AM
the pics alone want me 2 get them
Post by: ElectricLeftSlider on June 29, 2007, 10:46:45 AM
In the new catalogue this is what they say about the brand characteristics and personalities:
Columbia 300
Strong midlane and continuous ball motion across the entire product line. A cool legend that's back.
Ebonite
Versatile ball motion across the entire product line. A sophisticated brand that knows it's way around the lanes.
Hammer
Aggressive ball motion across the entire product line. You don't become a Hammer bowler. You either are one, or you're not.
Track
Skid/Flip ball motion across the entire product line. The perfect science for victory.
The fact that track is going to be nothing but skid/flip ball reactions explains why Wes is back with columbia. They can't really have him be out on tour with nothing but equipment that goes sideways.
Post by: batbowler on June 29, 2007, 02:02:55 PM
Post by: williewc on June 29, 2007, 02:29:35 PM
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on June 29, 2007, 02:38:08 PM
They are going to have drilling seminars for almost any driller to completely understand the ball dynamic's. This ball makes laying out a No mercy look easy as pie
Post by: HAMMERDOWN103 on June 29, 2007, 10:48:13 PM
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Post by: hammermike2000 on June 29, 2007, 10:50:56 PM
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This ball makes laying out a No mercy look easy as pie
Actually, the No Mercy IS one of the easiest balls to layout lol.
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Post by: spinner031 on June 29, 2007, 10:59:02 PM
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quote:This ball makes laying out a No mercy look easy as pie
Actually, the No Mercy IS one of the easiest balls to layout lol.
What?
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Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on June 30, 2007, 11:03:45 PM
The Layout system on the Rising is not difficult. 360* drill system makes it easy.....and it gives the ball driller many options to give the bowler the reation he/she wants.
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Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on July 01, 2007, 01:23:58 AM
The Kenetic and the Temper look exactly like the photos listed.....but the Rising looks nothing like that pictures, it looks more like this:
http://www.123bowl.com/ball.asp?ballid=174
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Post by: Xcessive_Evil on July 01, 2007, 02:17:54 AM
So, what do you say about the picture of the Red Kinetic that's been floating around? And to say the Kinetic is a better skid/flip ball than the PM? Wow, that's an extremely bold statement, especially considering what I've seen my PM do-especially after the re-drill. I was interested in only the Rising, but I just may have to add the Kinetic to this. So, the Rising looks just like the CM? I was hoping for a brand new look-but oh well.
Thanks for the info again, Carl. As always.
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Weeks of bowling withdrawl-3
Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on July 01, 2007, 10:07:05 AM
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So, what do you say about the picture of the Red Kinetic that's been floating around? And to say the Kinetic is a better skid/flip ball than the PM? Wow, that's an extremely bold statement, especially considering what I've seen my PM do-especially after the re-drill. I was interested in only the Rising, but I just may have to add the Kinetic to this. So, the Rising looks just like the CM? I was hoping for a brand new look-but oh well.
I have seen quite a few Kenetics and none of them were that red. I do however see a hint of red. It may just show up as much as it did on that picture simply due to the light.
All of you folks know how much I liked the Power Machine. It was my favorite ball of the last year or so. The Kenetic goes down the lane looking like a plastic ball and then turns like nothing I have seen before. It is a 5 and 2 move left with my feet compared to my TNV drilled identically.
The Rising looks identical to the CM. I do not think this is a bad thing due to tradition. The Rising is a very unique ball. You could drill up 3 of these and cover almost every condtion you will face, that is how versatile it is.
I honestly believe that all 3 of the new balls are must haves.
-Carl
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Post by: ElectricLeftSlider on July 01, 2007, 08:23:07 PM
Here's more visual of what the 3 balls will look like.
Post by: williewc on July 01, 2007, 08:37:55 PM
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http://www.blockbusterbowling.com/catalog/CatalogMgr.pl?cartID=b-4130&SearchField=category&SearchFor=TRballs&template=Htx/deptballs.htx&hdr=Track%20Balls&displayNumber=10
Here's more visual of what the 3 balls will look like.
it says skid/flip ball reaction for all 3 balls, but also says early roll for The Rising
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Post by: tenpinspro on July 02, 2007, 07:16:00 PM
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The Track stuff is not going to be skid/flip as much as it is going to have strong backend. I know this sounds conflicting, but if any of the folks that threw the Rising at the product showcase could talk to you about this ball you would hear: It rolls....but it still turns the corner hard. Knowing what I know about the Rising and the layout scheme, it can be skid/flip or it can roll very early. The Kenetic skid and flips better than anything I have seen, including the Power Machine. The Temper is not skid/flip, but it retains energy down lane very well.
The Layout system on the Rising is not difficult. 360* drill system makes it easy.....and it gives the ball driller many options to give the bowler the reaction he/she wants.
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My Tag Team partner is dead on and I want to add to this, the Kinetic transitions from oil to dry much better than our Power. It's strong but smoother and easier to control for me out here on the west coast on synthetics. Ron H and Randy T are fantastic guys, "these guys are good". I really should say they're great but Ron Jr may haunt me with this...lol
I can't really expunge on much more information but I'm in a little deeper in the business than most of you might think. Ebonite is an incredible company..
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Post by: Xcessive_Evil on July 02, 2007, 07:25:08 PM
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My current arsenal-www.putfile.com/trackbowler627
High game-300
High series-796
My summer leagues have ended early due to a wrist injury. Out 4-6 weeks.
Weeks of bowling withdrawl-3
Post by: tenpinspro on July 03, 2007, 07:24:07 AM
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The drilling options on the Rising make for some interesting variations on a one-ball arsenal. I have talked to people who threw it yesterday and stated just one thing "Monster". I can't wait to throw one myself.
Bill
Very true Bill (It was a pleasure meeting Chris, great guy...no wonder he picked you at his side), our 360 degree technology is a lot easier than most think. Carl and I will be assisting any and all of you who need help with this. We "ARE" back on Track baby......GAME ON!
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Post by: SKC on July 03, 2007, 05:27:00 PM
And apparently The Rising will not be made with neither Top Weight over 3 oz or Pin Distances over 3".. To match their new layout system..
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Post by: Djarum on July 10, 2007, 04:58:13 PM
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And apparently The Rising will not be made with neither Top Weight over 3 oz or Pin Distances over 3".. To match their new layout system..
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Well thats going to suck. I hope it won't roll over finger holes with a short pin.
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Post by: strikingresults-atl on July 10, 2007, 08:15:19 PM
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Post by: spinner031 on August 01, 2007, 02:29:08 PM
This core's gonna look monster awesome!
Post by: silverwing on August 03, 2007, 11:15:09 AM
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