Author Topic: This is the new arsenal artillery. (Read 5364 times)

chitown · « **on:** January 23, 2006, 10:48:11 AM »

Goo LS cover and rev master core. This is a pearl reactive cover from what BTM says. I don't have the specs but from what BTM says this has a low rg and high diff. BTM says this ball has the strongest back end out of the series.

The GOO LS cover? A different core? Why call it an Arsenal? From the reviews this ball will be hard to control on sport type conditions for high rev players. This makes sense to me because of the GOO LS cover (responds to friction).

My initial impression is not favorable. First i'm not pleased about the core because I really thought it would be similar to the AR,ANGULAR and AGGRESSIVE cores. Next I didn't like the XCEPTION or DELTA 1 and I feel a lot of that is because of the cover: GOO LS.

For those of you that like the core will probably like this ball. Myself, i'm disappointed.

Edited on 1/23/2006 10:44 PM

chitown · « **Reply #1 on:** January 23, 2006, 06:56:24 PM »

Has anyone else read the reviews in BTM? I'm surprised that this ball was reviewed and no one on here has released this info yet.

SteveAustin2808 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 23, 2006, 07:49:15 PM »

Hey CHI,

WOW! This could be good! Well, here comes the Blue Heat, Heat Blast, and Arsenal Artillery..can't help it, this is going to be great! God Bless you CHI and thanks for the info!

--Michael--
--------------------
What Are You Waiting For? Get on the FASTTrack to success!!

Track -- Building success stories, one bowler at a time!

McCorvey's Pro Shop Supporter
http://http://www.mccorveysproshop.com/

C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #3 on:** January 23, 2006, 09:44:28 PM »

chitown,

Don't rush bud. The revmaster core is awesome. That core/cover combination could be something sweet to see.

As for being the strongest in the lineup....I really don't know. The way BTM reviews and rates balls....odds are that they give it a high hook rating because it is super strong on the backends.

-Carl
--------------------
C-G Pro Shop (owner/operator)
Youngstown Ohio

Track Intl.-Amateur/Pro Shop Staff
www.trackbowling.com
www.startabowlingrevolution.com

Tag Team Member #1

Re-Evolution · « **Reply #4 on:** January 23, 2006, 09:49:52 PM »

I will agree on the revmaster core I just got an Elite Remix (overseas) which uses the revmaster core and I love the way it rolls.

--------------------
STORM TRACK
www.Bowling-Info.com
BR.com's unofficial FAQ section

chitown · « **Reply #5 on:** January 23, 2006, 09:56:19 PM »

quote:
chitown,

Don't rush bud. The revmaster core is awesome. That core/cover combination could be something sweet to see.

As for being the strongest in the lineup....I really don't know. The way BTM reviews and rates balls....odds are that they give it a high hook rating because it is super strong on the backends.

-Carl
--------------------
C-G Pro Shop (owner/operator)
Youngstown Ohio

Track Intl.-Amateur/Pro Shop Staff
www.trackbowling.com
www.startabowlingrevolution.com

Tag Team Member #1

Ex your correct. I re read there review and they said that the artillery is the strongest out of the line with respect to the BACK END and not the enitre lane. After reading past issues the aggressive has the highest hook rating out of the line.

I have an aggressive coming. I have the angular and reactive. I like the angular the best so far.

Now for me the GOO LS just isn't a good match. I found it hard to control and be accurate with on tough lanes. Now on a house shot it may have been better but I never got a chance to throw it on a house shot. The GOO LS responds very strong to friction so when it touches the dry the ball takes off. So on tough lanes I found that when the transition started this ball(xception) would head to destinations unknown. On fresh it wasn't as bad but still not great.

The Delta 1 for me wasn't as bad like the xception. I feel the dull surface on the Delta helped the ball from being too jerky when it hit dry. However the Delta drove so hard that if you didn't nail it in the pocket it was split city. I tried it on many conditions and just didn't like the hit. This ball didn't have that Track pin crushing hit like so many of there other releases. I will mention a few of the hardest hitting Track balls: ANIMAL, ANGULAR and REACTIVE.

C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #6 on:** January 23, 2006, 10:08:58 PM »

chitown,

The surface alteration to the original GOOLS (xception) made a huge difference in its change of direction and like/dislike of oil.

I think the high diff low RG core in that shell would be interesting to see. You have been saying recently that you think that symmetrical cores match your game better. This ball could tell you if the coverstock is a bad match for you OR if it is that coverstock on an asymmetrical core that was the bad match. The GOO LS on the Delta1 was pretty nice for me. I really cannot knock the Artillery until I have had a chance to see it on the lanes.

-Carl
--------------------
C-G Pro Shop (owner/operator)
Youngstown Ohio

Track Intl.-Amateur/Pro Shop Staff
www.trackbowling.com
www.startabowlingrevolution.com

Tag Team Member #1

chitown · « **Reply #7 on:** January 23, 2006, 10:38:13 PM »

quote:
chitown,

The surface alteration to the original GOOLS (xception) made a huge difference in its change of direction and like/dislike of oil.

I think the high diff low RG core in that shell would be interesting to see. You have been saying recently that you think that symmetrical cores match your game better. This ball could tell you if the coverstock is a bad match for you OR if it is that coverstock on an asymmetrical core that was the bad match. The GOO LS on the Delta1 was pretty nice for me. I really cannot knock the Artillery until I have had a chance to see it on the lanes.

-Carl
--------------------
C-G Pro Shop (owner/operator)
Youngstown Ohio

Track Intl.-Amateur/Pro Shop Staff
www.trackbowling.com
www.startabowlingrevolution.com

Tag Team Member #1

Fair enough EX I shouldn't knock a ball unless I throw it. Your correct I really like symmetrical balls better than asymmetrical. For some odd reason the animal just matched up real well for me even though it's asymmetrical.

I have an aggressive coming and I bet this ball will match up with me real well on heavy long patterns. The peak particle is really an awesome cover. I'm starting to think that reactive balls that are not real aggressive and particle balls are a better match for me.

Maybe I will buy a particle ball and see if it works better for me. Ex you got me thinking now. Maybe weaker or should I say more controllable reactive balls work for me and particle balls are more controllable by nature and they work for me.

In fact EX I think the animal and unleashed were the only particle balls I have ever owned aside from the peak particles.

C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #8 on:** January 23, 2006, 10:44:58 PM »

chitown,

That could definately be the case. The GOO LS is really considered a weaker reactive shell though, particularly if you take the polish off of it.

Have you tried a different ball....like the Blue Heat or Solution PP to see if that is correct? The Arsenal Aggressive is definately a good particle ball (you are correct...the peak particle is awesome). That may truely tell you alot.

Another thing....have you still been working on your game...changing release etc...? You may have changed something and that is causing the asymmetrical stuff to be different for you now.

-Carl
--------------------
C-G Pro Shop (owner/operator)
Youngstown Ohio

Track Intl.-Amateur/Pro Shop Staff
www.trackbowling.com
www.startabowlingrevolution.com

Tag Team Member #1

chitown · « **Reply #9 on:** January 23, 2006, 11:14:26 PM »

EX I pm'd you.

clintdaley · « **Reply #10 on:** January 24, 2006, 08:55:04 AM »

The Rev was a great ball, glad they are bringing it back out....can't wait to see it!

Clint
--------------------
Clint Daley-Owner
Lets Go Bowling Daley
Inside Hunt Club Lanes
Salem, Ohio 44460
TRACK ADVISORY PRO SHOP STAFF

http://www.trackbowling.com/

http://www.startabowlingrevolution.com/

Djarum · « **Reply #11 on:** January 24, 2006, 10:54:18 AM »

Well, I am dissapointed. I was hopping for something with a higher RG, and maybe the powerpack pearl or something. I'm not sure what the difference between the power pack and goo ls pearl are. I have seen the arsenal reactive in action, with factory finish, and this ball revvs up early on our THS. I think I may actually get my GF one, but not I. I have a problem at times with my Diablo revving up early. Maybe I see a heat blast in the future. I need a benchmark ball.

Dj
--------------------
The views and opinions of Djarum expressed on BallReviews.com do not necessarily state or reflect those of the BallReviews.com.

chitown · « **Reply #12 on:** January 24, 2006, 11:43:20 AM »

quote:
Arsenal Artillery Specs:

Ball: RG Diff
16lb 2.458 0.046
15lb 2.462 0.046
14lb 2.486 0.046

Core technology: Revmaster

Coverstock: GOO LS Reactive

Finish: Compound

Colour: Black / Green neon

Track flare: 6"

Hook potential: Dull 30 Polish 24

Length: 6.2

Backend: 8.0

Drill spin time: 5.25

Reaction shape: Strong Arc

Lane condition: medium

Merry Christmas

--------------------
Track International Staff
'Turn up the heat'
www.tenpin.org.au

BTM says this ball has the strongest backend out of all the arsenals.

chitown · « **Reply #13 on:** January 24, 2006, 11:46:18 AM »

quote:
Well, I am disappointed. I was hopping for something with a higher RG, and maybe the powerpack pearl or something. I'm not sure what the difference between the power pack and goo ls pearl are. I have seen the arsenal reactive in action, with factory finish, and this ball revs up early on our THS. I think I may actually get my GF one, but not I. I have a problem at times with my Diablo revving up early. Maybe I see a heat blast in the future. I need a benchmark ball.

Dj
--------------------
The views and opinions of Djarum expressed on BallReviews.com do not necessarily state or reflect those of the BallReviews.com.

I was hoping it would of had a pearl version of the power pack cover. I also wanted the same core as the other arsenals.

I don't no why they called this ball an arsenal if it didn't have anything similar to the others? The other 3 have the same core with different densities.

dw23 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 24, 2006, 12:15:00 PM »

I loved the Revmaster. I still have mine in the closet even though the cover is pretty much shot I just can't get rid of it becuase I liked it so much. I can't wait for the new release so I can finally put the Revmaster to rest.

DW

Author Topic: This is the new arsenal artillery. (Read 5364 times)

chitown

This is the new arsenal artillery.

chitown

Re: This is the new arsenal artillery.

SteveAustin2808

Re: This is the new arsenal artillery.

C-G ProShop-Carl

Re: This is the new arsenal artillery.

Re-Evolution

Re: This is the new arsenal artillery.

chitown

Re: This is the new arsenal artillery.

C-G ProShop-Carl

Re: This is the new arsenal artillery.

chitown

Re: This is the new arsenal artillery.

C-G ProShop-Carl

Re: This is the new arsenal artillery.

chitown

Re: This is the new arsenal artillery.

clintdaley

Re: This is the new arsenal artillery.

Djarum

Re: This is the new arsenal artillery.

chitown

Re: This is the new arsenal artillery.

chitown

Re: This is the new arsenal artillery.

dw23

Re: This is the new arsenal artillery.