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wristec

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FURRY animal...
« on: February 24, 2004, 01:37:49 AM »
Drilled 2 balls pin above (4" pin out) middle and ring and mass bias at strong position for a lefty and the other ball for a righty (2-3 pin out)is pin below middle and ring, mb at strong position.(both bowler has a 45 deg.
release angle. The ball is a big "DISAPPOINTMENT!!!" Lefty bowler used it it 3 different tournament with good amount of oil in the heads and pines. Played it in all parts of the lane, from 3rd board to 18th board as target. The ball skids good and spins well in the midlane but when it reaches the back end, the ball does not have good power to finish it off. The static weights of the ball is in the average criteria. With all the hype their saying about the ball, i think it is a very big disappointment! This review is coming from three different bowlers with similar descriptions of the movement of the ball.
Compared the ball to my Track Freak Out with almost the same drilling specs, the Freak Out, Phenom Unleashed is very much superior when it comes to finish and reading the lanes. As a proshop operator, i would not recommend again this ball to a customer. (it is just a furry cute animal!)
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cooksey

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Re: FURRY animal...
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2004, 04:46:20 PM »
Just a question? Did you try adjusting coverstocks on any of these balls? I have one and for about the first 3 or 4 games I didn't like it very much myself. I then took a Grey scotchbrite pad to the surface and after that it was a different ball. Also have a few more games on the ball. With the additional games on the ball and the surface tweak it reads the mids very well and has a nice hard arc to the pocket for me. The ball is drilled pin to the right of the ring finger cg kicked right i bit from center of grip and mass bias in strong position. Just thought I would let you know what worked for me. This ball is definetely a keeper now in my book.

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wristec

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Re: FURRY animal...
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2004, 04:58:32 PM »
You said it yourself, you didn't like it very much. And yes i scuffed it with a scotch-brite pad and still the ball is not that impressive. On the average,the ball will give you only 210 to 215 average in a good lane scoring condition 6 or 8 game tournament. To win, you need a 240 minimum ave. and the ball cannot perform on that level, i shifted to the freak out and dulled it a little bit because the lanes was flooded, finally i recovered with some 239, 237, and 259 to finish last in the cashing of the tournament.
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matt smith

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Re: FURRY animal...
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2004, 05:40:10 PM »
correct me if im wrong... but didnt mika k shoot 300 on the show with a stinger low flare???????? thats a low performance ball... not the ball... its the bowler... Give the ball some time, everyone knows a ball doesnt react like it does out of the box forever.

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Ernie McCracken

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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2004, 05:42:46 PM »
Gotta agree with Matt Smith on his reply.  I hated my RevMaster when I got it too.  I just needed to give the ball some time and see what it had to offer me.  Now, I think it's a great ball and it fits well with my other stuff.
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Re: FURRY animal...
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2004, 06:05:32 PM »
Hey Big Ern, how about that rose ball that you used to beat Munson in Reno. Is that still one of your favorites?

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cooksey

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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2004, 07:11:10 PM »
Yes I said I didn't like it. What I meant is that I didn't like the reaction it was giving me. I have allot of balls that I started out not liking but once I got a few games on them or figured out what coverstock adjustment it needed I usually had no problems. I have one ball that still has OOB finish on it and that is a dry heat. I prefer tweaking the coverstock to something I can duplicate rather than an out of box finish which for me is usually harder to duplicate. I also agree with what most every one has said here, its not the ball its the bowler. I bowled a 299 awhile ago with an ultra hot which is very far froma high end ball but the condition was right for it. But anyway I now like the animal very much so if you have one for sale that you don't like lmk.

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Phillip Marlowe

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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2004, 07:29:39 PM »
Whether this ball is any good or not, I leave to others.  I will tell you this much, it: (a) is not the hooker that the specs indicate and that Track made it out to be; (b) does not match up in box condition with a number of bowlers; and (c) does not provide a reaction I particularly like on the conditions I see.

I write this despite having scored reasonably well (averaging over 220 with it when the lights go on) with the ball.  For the conditions it seems to be most usable on, there are other, less expensive pieces of equipment that give me a better reaction.  And my experience is not unique.

I am hoping to grow to like the ball.  The core looks unique.  I hope the cover lasts more than the 80 games and grass nap that some recent offerings have given.  But this ball, in box set up, is not what it is advertised as being in the Track charts.  Read the BTM review.  If you look at the Track specs, it hooks more than the Phenom or the Phenom Unleashed -- or the Mutant.  It doesn't.
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cooksey

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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2004, 07:50:18 PM »
Just a question what is the lowest grit anyone has tried on the animal?

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Re: FURRY animal...
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2004, 07:50:21 PM »
Just a question what is the lowest grit anyone has tried on the animal?

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Phillip Marlowe

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Re: FURRY animal...
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2004, 07:58:48 PM »
quote:
Just a question what is the lowest grit anyone has tried on the animal?

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I've tried down to 600.
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wristec

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Re: FURRY animal...
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2004, 08:09:00 PM »
i'll polish the ball tonight and try to use it and play it tighter to feel the back end finish...
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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2004, 12:31:54 AM »
I drilled an Animal tonight for a Cranker.....I was very suprised. Before he even threw the ball we took the surface down to 600. The ball did not burn up on him at all, but he could not get it out past the 3rd arrow the ball caught and hooked so much.

I have kept mine with the box surface, and it matches my game even with my high speed I can use it almost all of the time.

I am far from disappointed, and I think the cranker is in love---a dull ball that will still recover for him and not roll out.
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Re: FURRY animal...
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2004, 12:46:08 AM »
what someone calls a good ball is something that works for them and their standards. well let me tell you, it is impossible to find a ball that will work out for everyone's standards because you have to take in all the factors, and believe me there are a lot of factor. just the ones I can think off of the top of my head are: ball speed, rev rate, axis tilt, oil pattern or condition, lane preperation, stroker, power stroker, cranker, tweener, full rollers, drill pattern, ball surface, lofting, swinging the ball, playing straight up, release, and there are oh so many more as the list goes on but I've ran out of brain cells at this time.  what I'm trying to say is that the reason the engineers come out with so many bowling balls a month is because they are trying to make one suitable for all of the above conditions and when one gets out-dated they have to relpace it with something. So what, there may not be a ball that works for you but that doesn't mean that it doesn't work for others, what you call crap is another's one's treasure. (although my so called "treasure" usually ends up in the toilet).  What annoys me the most when someone says the ball is "bad" or "good" because that is according to their prefrence, Am I right or am I right about that.  So please do not diss a ball in generalization because it's not always true for everyone, I know a person who thinks his Maxim is "off the hook" and he's averaging 180 with that ball alone, not saying that is a wise decision but it works for him.  so, yes, the Animal is crap for you, but is great for others.  I have drilled 6 of them for 5 people (one got two) and they all love them, wow I feel like I'm going through a philosphy or something. lol and I'm 16 with a lot of knowledge.  well let me know what you guys think.  and by the way (this goes to wristec)  I like to watch other people that throw similar to my bowling style with a ball that I am interested in that way will "somewhat" know what the outcome of the ball will do for me.  tell me if you guys think I'm right or not
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Re: FURRY animal...
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2004, 07:02:19 AM »
Hey Wristec,

If after a while if your guys still don't like the reaction, try this.  Place the pin under their rings(keep it in a pos quadrant) and shift mb toward or on val. With the box finish, this will help pull the ball up sooner allowing it to turn over better.  From my experience, unless there is a fair amount of dry, none of my balls with the pins directly in center line take off strong.  It actually gives me a truer and much more stable roll, that's why even Angelo had his pin above bridge to help stabilize it because it was so dry on the show.  Just a thought for you, that's all.
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