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TheMan14

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Track Animal drilling
« on: October 03, 2005, 11:52:42 AM »
Sorry for the explanation, but this is as close as I could get with the drilling.  I bought this ball for heavy oil, but everytime I get near heavy oil, the ball just skids.  I have medium-high revs, and throw the ball about 14-16 m.p.h. I was wondering what kind of reaction I should expect to get.  My pro shop owner told me this was drilled for maximum hook and if it is, then for me this is a very weak ball in heavy oil.  Thanks.

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Slopsurprise

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Re: Track Animal drilling
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2005, 08:00:45 PM »
Dull the coverstock down. If I remember correctly, the Animal out of the box is kind of shinny.
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Re: Track Animal drilling
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2005, 08:01:15 PM »
I had it at 500-600 grit, then my pro shop owner wet-sanded it.  Is that the max drilling for the ball?

Edited on 10/3/2005 7:54 PM

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Re: Track Animal drilling
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2005, 08:02:56 PM »
I cant tell by your picture. Did you pro shop guy say it was 3 3/8 drilling?
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TheMan14

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Re: Track Animal drilling
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2005, 08:05:12 PM »
He just said that it was the max drilling.  I have tried slowing my ball speed down, but it still doesn't hook a lot.  The last thing I thought of trying was bring the ball down to 220 grit.

Edited on 10/3/2005 7:58 PM

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Re: Track Animal drilling
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2005, 08:55:10 PM »
While it in general may be max, it is not the earlist roll you could drill into the ball. By putting the mass bias on or near your VAL, you creat early revs, which is great for oil. Plus, with the pin above the finger line, that makes the ball go a little longer down the lane with a sharper backend. So, while he may have stacked everything for you, it could have been drilled to be even more.

However, with you dulling it down, it should help you out in heavy oil. Also, with the cover being that dull and the mass bias in a strong position (but not the strongest) it could be that it is rolling so early, it is not saving any energy for the backend, thus making it look weak.

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Re: Track Animal drilling
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2005, 09:34:08 PM »
I need to put the pin below my finger?  Where should I put the MB? How do I locate my VAL?  The pro shop owner said the lane machine was broken so the machine pushed oil outside of 2nd arrow, which is where I play.

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Re: Track Animal drilling
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2005, 09:43:58 PM »
I see...

The reason I say pin below the finger line is this. The higher you put the pin, the taller the core is, and thus, the longer it takes to make the ball get into a roll, thus it pushes down the lane further than a pin below the finger line ball. As for the most aggressive drill, we would need to know more about you, ideally your PAP. Your VAL should be able to be found pretty easy with the help of a knowledgable driller. Remember, the closer you put the mass bias to your VAL, the sooner the ball wants to roll.

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TheMan14

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Re: Track Animal drilling
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2005, 10:24:41 PM »
Have my pro shop owner put the pin down and to the right a little from my ring finger, the MB clost to the Val?  What if the MB was put on the VAL?

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Re: Track Animal drilling
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2005, 10:25:46 PM »
Whats a VAL?
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Re: Track Animal drilling
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2005, 06:50:31 AM »
Hey TheMan,

Like Clint mentioned, it's a little hard to say without knowing your pap to say how it measures up.  How close is your first oil line to your fingers and thumb?  If you're fairly close (within an inch or so), I'd say the drilling would be fairly weak relative to that.

The Animal was designed to have quite a bit of axis retention which translates into a fair amount of built in length.  Now add the longer distance or placement of the mb to your pap and this would cause this ball to skid quite a long way in heavier oil.  

Your driller said it was for maximum hook, tough one again bud until we know your pap to see if the mass bias was placed in the proper position.  I'd try and take the cover down some more to see if it can give you the desired reaction.  Just to give you an example,I had my Animal at 400 "PLUS" the mass bias past my val about 3.25-3.5 to pap to help promote earlier roll for the heavier oil and then it worked.  Try the sanding and see if that helps, if not,plugging and redrilling would be your other option.  The Animal can handle heavier oil but it does need to be dull and have the mb in it's proper positioning to react.  Hope this helps explain some...
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Re: Track Animal drilling
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2005, 08:18:17 AM »
For what it's worth my Phenom is an utter truck with the pin below the bridge and MB about 1 1/2 right of my thumb, the high pin gives length, having it under the fingers helps the ball read the mids real strong and the strong MB position makes it roar on the backs. Maybe something similar to that might give you the look on the lane you're after
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Re: Track Animal drilling
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2005, 08:53:57 PM »
If I am correct, I usually see an the first oil ring 1-1.5 inches from my finger and thumb.  Knowing this, how should I drill the Animal?

Edited on 10/4/2005 9:05 PM

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Re: Track Animal drilling
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2005, 10:56:33 AM »
Hey TheMan,

I'd go ahead and move the mass bias to an earlier rolling position.  Place it on your val or to where it measures about 3.5 should do the trick since it sounds like you have higher revs than speed.  Then dull the cover down as needed to match your oil thickness.  You can leave the pin in about the same position.
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TheMan14

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Re: Track Animal drilling
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2005, 06:48:18 PM »
If I move the pin down, would that get me an earlier roll?

Edited on 10/6/2005 8:18 PM