Hi Rock77,

As I mentioned before in another thread about trying to make balls do something they're not supposed to, taking the VooDoo to 600 is another case.  This ball isn't meant to be sanded to that degree.  It may last temporarily but it should shine up pretty quick and you'll lose the friction that the 600 created and your reaction will change.  What are you looking for is the real question.  Based on your profile, you are missing a strong resin to polished particle.  Is this the gap you're trying to fill?  

In regards to the SuperFreak, the layout you mentioned will produce very early revs for you with little backend. It's actually more of a hook/set layout but since you have a lower track, it will help offset some of the natural length that you create.  However, assuming your pap is correct, this may not be too bad a layout as it will rev up and having the mb in val also helps pull you up in heavy oil due to your lower track.  Hope this helps...
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Rick Leong
Ten Pins Pro Shop
Track Pro Shop Staff
Vise Grip Staff

Hi Rock77,

The Triple Threat and maybe an Unleashed would probably be a better fit since you already have a Voodoo(similiar to Crash).  These 2 balls would fill into your arsenal nicely based on the coverstock differences alone.  Hope this helps..
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Rick Leong
Ten Pins Pro Shop
Track Pro Shop Staff
Vise Grip Staff

I drilled a Crash for a customer today........

Drilled it with the pin 5in away from his PAP and the CG 4in from PAP.

I watched him throw several games with the ball, and this ball seems much more tame on the backend than the VooDoo(he has one drilled 4.5x3.5). The VooDoo seemed much stronger on the backend. They both seemed to have about the same kind of "impact" and pin carry.

After about 5 games and the oil moving down a bit, he had to move his feet 2 boards RIGHT with the VooDoo, and about 5 boards right with the Crash.

I do not know if this information is going to really help you, I just figured I would offer that story.


As far as your arsenal goes, I would tend to agree with Rick. If you set it up like this I think you would be covered on almost everything:

Super Freak
Unleashed
Triple Threat
VooDoo
(you seem set on the Crash, so if you have to get one, put it here, just drill it with like a 5-5.5 inch pin from PAP)

goodluck
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Ex, I spoke with Rick on this. I really want my Crash to be stronger than my Voodoo. I dont see my Voodoo as a very strong ball at all. He told me to go with a 3x4 drill on it and I should get more backend out of the ball. My Voodoo's current drill is 3.5" pin drilled above ring, cg an inch from my PAP with a weight hole on my PAP. This ball moves but only when conditions are right for it. Like last night, I was able to use it when the lanes began to breakdown in my second and third games of league. I want to be able to use the Crash when there is more carrydown. I hope the 3x4 makes it stronger.

Thanks guys
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"I am the most consistent bowler in my house....

I consistently SUCK!!"

Ex, maybe thats why 1). I am having a hard time getting the Voodoo to move and 2). When it does move I leave alot of single pins.

If the ball is burning its energy then it doesnt move at all or it doesnt carry well when it does move!! With that drilling on the Voodoo, what is the ball "supposed" to do as far as reaction is concerned??

Also, should I polish it up?? When I got the ball it was dulled to about 800 grit. Thanks
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"I am the most consistent bowler in my house....

I consistently SUCK!!"

Ex, thanks again. You and Tenpins have been such a great help to me thus far. The main reason I decided to come back to Track stuff is because I have had much success with their stuff. All of my big games have been shot with Track stuff. Plus, I match up well with their equipment.

On another note, after speaking with Tenpins, he noted that I lacked a strong resin/polished particle. So, here is what I am looking at for an arsenal:

Super Freak
Unleashed
Thrash/Triple Threat
Crunch Time
Crash

Thats what I have thus far. With this equipment, I will be phasing out my Voodoo and Threat. Let me know what you guys think.
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"I am the most consistent bowler in my house....

I consistently SUCK!!"

Hey Rock,

To help others understand, I reason I like the Unleashed in there is because there would be a big gap from the Super Freak to the Triple as you chose earlier for an arsenal.  The choice between a TT and a Thrash is a little tricky but I feel that the Triple is a good choice because it is stronger then the CrunchTime and again would help cover more conditions.  It's up to you though because I don't know exactly what type of shots you personally encounter.  The current choices you have look pretty good for an arsenal because it should cover most conditions based on the coverstocks alone.  Hope this helps....
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Rick Leong
Ten Pins Pro Shop
Track Pro Shop Staff
Vise Grip Staff