Author Topic: Track Ball to Control Dry Back Ends (Read 2605 times)

dw23 · « **on:** October 24, 2005, 06:37:34 AM »

I've been bowling really well but one condition that still gives me trouble is really dry back ends. Everything in my arsenal either hooks too early or flips uncontrollably. What ball and drilling would you use to control extremely dry backends.

Listed below are balls I've tried:
Heat 3 1/3 x 3 1/3
Solution EX 4 1/2 x 3
Exception 3 1/2 x 3 1/2 x 5

Thanks,
DW

clintdaley · « **Reply #1 on:** October 24, 2005, 02:40:58 PM »

Desert Heat with the 4 1/2 x 3 drill....really smooths it out. Anything pearl ill jump on dry, especially anything that has much of a core to it...which those 3 all do. My Desert is drilled very close to this with the pin ending up under the fingers. Keep the pin below the finger line and that will help as well. The higher UP you put the pin, the more flip you will create on the backend.

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dw23 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 24, 2005, 03:45:31 PM »

Thanks Clint,
I'll try that but it is hard for me to drill balls with the under the fingers because I track very high. If I can find one with a long pin I can usually cheat the pin up and get similar results.

I've also been told that a weaker ball with a very smooth (1800 grit) cover works well. Have you seen anything that confirms this?

Thanks,
DW

The great one · « **Reply #3 on:** October 24, 2005, 05:36:01 PM »

just like this http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/whobettathaneric/detail?.dir=31ca&.dnm=862c.jpg&.src=ph
that ball also if you can get one.
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tenpinspro · « **Reply #4 on:** October 25, 2005, 08:02:10 AM »

Hey dw, (How've you been man?)

Okay, looking at your layouts, I'd have to say that you are on a shorter pattern with clean backs (we have one place out here like this) as those layouts aren't extremely violent by any means.

Take a look at the great one's layout. I had suggested something like this to him a while back, guess he went with it. My suggestion to you is to try something of the same nature as my Aggressive (1.5x1). This helps control the ball quite a bit, it's similar to what we call pin axis, just a slight variation of it. The other way is to swing the pin above your middle finger placing it in the finger/neg quadrant but be careful because that may make you clip as you state that you have a high track. Maybe achappy can chime in as most of his balls are drilled that way and he also has a very high track...
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dw23 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 25, 2005, 12:33:17 PM »

Hey Rick,

How's business up north?

I'm doing well man, thanks for asking. I'm bowling well and I feel pretty comfortable with my equipment right now and that's half the battle.

I don't see this condition that often and I know when I do I need to move outside with something that will hook and set but I don't trust anything I have to play that line. I do have a Crunchtime drilled 1 1/2 x 2 that I haven't tried. Do you think this will work?

AS always, thanks for your help.
DW

C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #6 on:** October 25, 2005, 01:33:06 PM »

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I don't see this condition that often and I know when I do I need to move outside with something that will hook and set but I don't trust anything I have to play that line. I do have a Crunchtime drilled 1 1/2 x 2 that I haven't tried. Do you think this will work?

I think the CT would do a pretty good job. You may need to take the polish off of the ball....but other than that it should work nicely. If you end up deciding to add to what you currently have I would suggest drilling a Solution PP with the pin on axis Swing the CG towards the center of your grip. You will be suprised at how smooth this layout is on wet/dry conditions!

Goodluck,
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dw23 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 25, 2005, 02:10:16 PM »

Thanks Ex,
I wondered if the PP would work. I had an old Red Stomp that just killed this condition years ago and it was drill 2 x 3. I think I'll take the cover of the Crunchtime down to 2000 smooth and try it for a while.

Would a light load particle ball work well since they are built to roll earlier and smoother than reactive?

Thanks again,
DW

C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #8 on:** October 25, 2005, 02:22:02 PM »

DW,

Lightload particle could work. It will not move as strongly off of the breakpoint as reactive. Is there a particular ball you are thinking of?

-Carl
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dw23 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 25, 2005, 03:07:35 PM »

I'm thinking of the Hexplosion, Spell, Triple Threat. I'm not sure of anything else that would work.

chitown · « **Reply #10 on:** October 25, 2005, 04:03:09 PM »

I have my desert drilled with a label layout and it works great for high flying backends.

dw23 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 26, 2005, 05:05:29 AM »

I'm thinking of the Hexplosion, Spell, Triple Threat and Sheer Havoc.
Thanks
DW

tenpinspro · « **Reply #12 on:** October 26, 2005, 07:26:02 AM »

quote:
I do have a Crunchtime drilled 1 1/2 x 2 that I haven't tried. Do you think this will work?

Hey bud, sounds pretty good, might as well give it a shot since you already have it. I also like EX's thought on knocking off the shine so it won't jerk as hard when it hits friction. Pretty much your same thought as looking into a particle.

quote:
Would a light load particle ball work well since they are built to roll earlier and smoother than reactive?

quote:
I'm thinking of the Hexplosion, Spell, Triple Threat and Sheer Havoc.

Yes, a lite load particle can also do the trick. Out of these, the Hexplosion would probably be the best. The great one did this on his Hexplosion as well I believe. If you can still find some of Columbia's old Tec-Shine (designed to seal large particles before polishing), that stuff was great in "sealing" a ball. Applying any "thick" polish over a weak particle would also help smoothen out your reaction. Hope this helps some....
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dw23 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 27, 2005, 11:56:08 AM »

I will try the Cruchtime for a while. Thanks for the suggestion. I think I'll pick up a desert heat and try that also. Can never have too many weapons. Well, maybe you can.

DW

Edited on 10/27/2005 11:48 AM

Bluff · « **Reply #14 on:** October 27, 2005, 12:20:00 PM »

quote:
I'm thinking of the Hexplosion, Spell, Triple Threat. I'm not sure of anything else that would work.

Sheer Havco

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