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SteveAustin2808

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Comparison/Contrast Help!
« on: October 24, 2005, 03:48:50 PM »
FASTTrackers,

It has been awhile since I've posted on here; however, I do in fact need some comparison/contrast help with all the bowling balls I have. I broke down and sold my Havoc and Crash to my Boss and the Assistant Manager at the center today! So with what I have left, I put this list together below to help you guys post your thoughts in this thread. Just need a little bit of help! Mike (TheOriginalChewmeister), let the other guys in this thread give me advice, I'm sure you'll call me letting me know your two cents! Anyways, thanks guy for any help you can provide! God Bless!

Rule Delta 1 vs. Original Rule
Rule Delta 1 vs. X-Ception
Rule Delta 1 vs. Arsenal Reactive
Rule Delta 1 vs. Triton Elite
Rule Delta 1 vs. Triton Heat Pearl
Rule Delta 1 vs. Triton Heat Solid

Rule vs. X-Ception
Rule vs. Arsenal Reactive
Rule vs. Triton Elite
Rule vs. Triton Heat Pearl
Rule vs. Triton Heat Solid

X-Ception vs. Arsenal Reactive
X-Ception vs. Triton Elite
X-Ception vs. Triton Heat Pearl
X-Ception vs. Triton Heat Solid

Arsenal Reactive vs. Triton Elite
Arsenal Reactive vs. Triton Heat Pearl
Arsenal Reactive vs. Triton Heat Solid

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Re: Comparison/Contrast Help!
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2005, 06:21:02 AM »
What ball are you referring to by "Triton Heat Solid"?
As far as I know there was no such ball. There was a Heat 2 solid, but that was not called "Triton".
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Re: Comparison/Contrast Help!
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2005, 08:07:50 AM »
Hey Michael,

Not sure what you're looking for here bud.  I'm "assuming" you want "general" differences in reaction because the variables are just too great. Pin and Mass Bias placements can create a world of difference in reaction.  Do you just want generic comparisons?
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Re: Comparison/Contrast Help!
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2005, 12:01:38 PM »
Hey Rick,

Yes just generic based information

Charles,

Back in 1997, Track released the Triton Heat Solid and later on put out a Pearl version.

Thanks guys!

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Re: Comparison/Contrast Help!
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2005, 12:20:29 PM »
I don't remember 2 original Heats....

here is what I remember:

Ocean Blue Triton
Coral Triton
Triton Heat
Triton Elite
Triton Elite pearl
Triton TKO
Triton Contender
Triton KO Punch
Triton KO Punch Pro

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Re: Comparison/Contrast Help!
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2005, 12:38:54 PM »
Clint,

If I had pictures of them I would post on here and send them to you, but since I don't have that capability, I can't...I promise you though, its two different Triton Heat's...anyways...what about some help comparison/contrast wise...thanks!

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Re: Comparison/Contrast Help!
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2005, 12:48:28 PM »
All for what I have seen! All surfaces are out of box for my opinion.

Rule Delta 1 vs. Original Rule- Delta is sooner and more backend
Rule Delta 1 vs. X-Ception-Delta is sooner, X is more snappy on the back
Rule Delta 1 vs. Arsenal Reactive-Arsenal is sooner...Delta has more backend
Rule Delta 1 vs. Triton Elite- Never side by side, but I would thin the Delta would be sooner and more angular
Rule Delta 1 vs. Triton Heat Pearl-Never side by side, Delta would be sooner and probably about the same backend.
Rule Delta 1 vs. Triton Heat Solid

Rule vs. X-Ception-Rule is sooner, X has more backend
Rule vs. Arsenal Reactive-Arsenal is sooner, same backend to me
Rule vs. Triton Elite-Elite probably sooner with same backend
Rule vs. Triton Heat Pearl-Rule is sooner, Pearl more backend
Rule vs. Triton Heat Solid

X-Ception vs. Arsenal Reactive-Arsenal sooner, X more backend
X-Ception vs. Triton Elite-Elite sooner, X more backend
X-Ception vs. Triton Heat Pearl-Probably about the same length, X has more backend
X-Ception vs. Triton Heat Solid

Arsenal Reactive vs. Triton Elite-Arsenal sooner, Elite more on the back
Arsenal Reactive vs. Triton Heat Pearl-Arsenal sooner, Heat more on the back
Arsenal Reactive vs. Triton Heat Solid

I went and looked on bowlingballreviews.com and here and could not find a Heat solid. I know when they first came out, the phasing some of them had made them look more solid than pearl...but I am pretty sure they were all pearls....the phasing can throw the best of us off the mark.

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Re: Comparison/Contrast Help!
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2005, 05:56:59 PM »
SteveAustin-

I'd agree with basically all of Clint's comparisons, although I feel like I commonly see more backend out of my Rule than Clint sees/saw out of his.  In those areas, I'd go-

Rule vs. Arsenal Reactive-Arsenal is sooner, Rule has more backend.
Rule vs. Triton Elite-  Depends on the condition, and it depends on if you consider the Slash to be a close replica of the Elite.  I'm comparing the Slash and the Rule.  Overall, on average, the Rule is sooner with slightly more backend.


Going along with what Charlest and Clint said, I also agree that there wasn't a Triton Heat Solid, though I do remember reading a few months back that Track users on here were hoping for a Heat with a solid coverstock.


And, just as a slight aside to Clint and anybody else that remembers the Triton series...how great were the Ocean Blue Triton shirts?   I was 12-13 at the time when the shirts came out, and I thought that shirt, along with Brunswick's white/gray/black Zone shirt, were the two best around.
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Re: Comparison/Contrast Help!
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2005, 10:50:46 AM »
SteveAustin,

I'm sorry; I know you're not going to like this but for many of these ball pairs, you're asking for comparisons that shouldn't or can't be made. Unless you're on some horrible (I mean, far too easy) house shots, where you can use almost any ball from a Heat Pearl to a GP2, one shouldn't or even can't use a Delta on the same condition on which you're using an Xception, as one example.

The asymmetric and the high RG differential symmetric cores have a GREAT deal of drilling flaxibility PLUS almost all these coverstocks are super easy to modify (another great advantage to Track's balls).

You can make most of the asymmetrics work on almost any oil pattern; they are at least as flexible as MoRich balls, which are very flexible. So if yo umodify the drillings and surfaces, any one of these can hook more or less than others, can grab the lane earlier or have more backend than most of the others.

Excaliber, tenpinspro, Achappy and clint have been very conscientious in posting extensive comparisons, when applicable, in every one of their formal ball reviews, as well as their mini-reviews in this forum.

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