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Big-G Bowler

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TRACK COVERSTOCKS?
« on: November 23, 2006, 03:31:31 PM »
Anyone know what or where I can get the grade (out of box) of Track's coverstocks?  The only one I know of is that the Rule Delta One is 900 out of box.  Right now all I can find is the name of the coverstocks.  Any help would be appreciated...Thanks.
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Re: TRACK COVERSTOCKS?
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2006, 11:33:27 PM »
which one are you looking for?

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Re: TRACK COVERSTOCKS?
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2006, 11:45:30 PM »
mostly the Mean Machine, Inertia, Equation, and the new Power Machine.  also would like to know about the xception and the 5.0.  thanks.
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Re: TRACK COVERSTOCKS?
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2006, 12:04:05 AM »
power machine 3000 polished

robo rule 800 sheen
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Re: TRACK COVERSTOCKS?
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2006, 12:04:58 AM »
x 5.0 1000 polished
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Re: TRACK COVERSTOCKS?
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2006, 08:50:58 AM »
Hey Rob,

Rev-O is correct but feel free to pm Carl.  He has a pretty complete list we asked for from Del which "Carl" has still failed to send me...

The Equation is also 3000 polished.
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Re: TRACK COVERSTOCKS?
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2006, 10:43:59 AM »
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Rev-O is correct but feel free to pm Carl. He has a pretty complete list  


If Carl would post the list right here in this Forum, it would help people like myself and others that do their own surface changes and stop people from having to wonder what the surface is supposed to be. Would help even more if Track would post this information with each ball they list on their site like some companies do.

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Re: TRACK COVERSTOCKS?
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2006, 10:47:58 AM »
The X5.0 was compound polished, roughly 1000-grit with a little bit of polish on top of it.

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Re: TRACK COVERSTOCKS?
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2006, 11:00:48 AM »
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Rev-O is correct but feel free to pm Carl. He has a pretty complete list  


If Carl would post the list right here in this Forum, it would help people like myself and others that do their own surface changes and stop people from having to wonder what the surface is supposed to be. Would help even more if Track would post this information with each ball they list on their site like some companies do.

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Re: TRACK COVERSTOCKS?
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2006, 11:01:47 AM »
This is an area that Track needs vast improvement.  Surface adjustments are so important on today's lane conditions, I can't believe that this is not a "standard " on their web site and drilling instructions.  One needs to know the OOB rating for a reference starting point and confirmation of what the bowler is using.

Many of the Specifications are left blank and with ambiguous wording, and with incorrect, if not wrong, product descriptions; marketing, advertising leaves the potential buyer and hard core FastTracker asking fairly "should be" obvious questions, that most major quality ball companies outline extremely well.  

With such a high quality product, I wonder why there is such a disconnect?  Track is not the only brand guilty of this shortcoming... All Columbia brands should be made aware of this.....

Email to Columbia will be sent on this subject; it shouldn't be this way!
Always being in the market for BBs, I noticed this shortcoming right away; I thought how out of touch and uncaring; or under staffed?  Wow! talk about obvious....comeon' Columbia!
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Re: TRACK COVERSTOCKS?
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2006, 04:59:59 PM »
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Hey Rob,

Rev-O is correct but feel free to pm Carl.  He has a pretty complete list we asked for from Del which "Carl" has still failed to send me...

The Equation is also 3000 polished.
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Whoa there, Rick.

Do you mean to tell us that the Equation, for its stock surface, has been sanded to 3000 grit, and then polished????

If that's true, then sanded to 600 grit, it should challenge the GP2 as the Track oil handling champ!?!?!?!?
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Re: TRACK COVERSTOCKS?
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2006, 11:06:19 PM »
OK folks.....here is the coverstock info requested:


Xception 5.0                            1000 compound

Equation                                   3000 polish

Arsenal Artillery                        1000 compound

Heat Blast                                2000 polish

Machine                                   1000 compound

Inertia                                   1000 polish

Power Machine                             3000 compound

Xception                                   2000 polish
                             
Mean Machine                               1500 smooth



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Re: TRACK COVERSTOCKS?
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2006, 04:01:12 AM »
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If that's true, then sanded to 600 grit, it should challenge the GP2 as the Track oil handling champ!?!?!?!?


Hmmm...not sure if changing "that" particular cover will make it a true heavy oil ball.  The ball that may fit that if taken to 600 may be the Power Machine since it already has a much stronger cover to begin with.

In talking with you over the course of time, it may handle the heavy stuff you and maybe what FBM357 seem to encounter (you guys don't get much at all it seems).  I'd say if I put a 600 on the Equation, it may only bring it up to about a med/med and maybe med/heavy for the stronger handed players.

Between the Power Machine and Equation, the 2 balls are a good 10-12 boards apart for me.  I would have to say that the hook variance is not just due to one being compound and one polished and "assume" that the Power's cover has more pores in the surface.  Carl has also soaked his in hot water and stated that the Power bled out quite a bit in the short time that he has been using it.  Just my thoughts...
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Re: TRACK COVERSTOCKS?
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2006, 09:07:58 AM »
Thanks gentleman for the information....especially Carl.  Now I have something to go by when adjusting the surface.....wooohooo!!!  I meant to ask Del at the clinic, but forgot...
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Re: TRACK COVERSTOCKS?
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2006, 05:36:52 PM »
Rick,

I just meant if it handled medium oil with its stock cover, as some reviews have suggested AND if it's already 3000 grit (thta's VERY fine level) PLUS polish, if it were sanded duller, it should, in theory handle a "significant" amount of oil. I was very surprised to see this fine a level as the stock surface.

Yes, generally, "East Coast" (esp most of NJ and some of NY) are very dry indeed. They surprise us occasionally.

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