Author Topic: Track guys upset with the buyout (Read 3253 times)

chitown · « **on:** February 10, 2007, 11:25:30 AM »

I know a lot of you die hard Track fans are upset with what's been going on with the Ebonite buy out. Don't forget that these are just bowling balls. I know matching up to a particular company's equipment does make a difference. Heck that can make the difference between making money or not. Some of us bowlers make a good amount of money bowling so we take this ball buying pretty serious.

I used to roll Track equipment. I ended up having some bad luck with some of there releases and switched to Hammer. My scores went thru the roof rolling Hammer and I have done pretty good money wise. My entire arsenal is Hammer. However that doesn't mean I won't try other brands. These are just bowling balls.

Ebonite has done a great job with the Hammer brand. I feel they will do the same with Track.

So hang tight Tracksters things may be better than before.
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scotts33 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 10, 2007, 07:27:22 PM »

chi--I don't disagree with you but what if the shoe was on the other foot?
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chitown · « **Reply #2 on:** February 10, 2007, 07:32:52 PM »

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chi--I don't disagree with you but what if the shoe was on the other foot?
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What do you mean? If Hammer was bought out by Columbia would I be upset? No not really. If the new Hammers didn't match up with me then I would try another company. I do understand that some bowlers are more loyal than others to using a certain company's equipment.
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Xfest · « **Reply #3 on:** February 10, 2007, 07:37:56 PM »

I believe the buy out was a very smart one.

Now only 3 main companies out in the bowling world.

Ebonite Industries
Brunswick Bowling
Storm Bowling

Those are the 3 main producers of bowling balls now. I believe this move was enormous. Ebonite is on the top of the selling charts producing the latest and greatest Total NV, and is a huge seller. I would expect Columbia equipment to be the latest and greatest in the near future producing a better ball than they are right now. Expect for Track to follow suit, and be re-innovated.
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Rev_O · « **Reply #4 on:** February 10, 2007, 07:40:04 PM »

I agree chitown. I said the same thing a few days ago (it's only a bowling ball!), and I got my head bit off by a couple certain individuals.

Everyone justs needs to relax. What steams my veggies about the whole ordeal is my closeout order is being held up by this merger. I placed the order 2 weeks ago, and I can't get a straight answer from Ebonite, or Columbia. Of course, I call to Ebonite on friday went unreturned. I have a few customers that are not happy right now becasue of this!!
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scotts33 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 10, 2007, 07:43:32 PM »

Just wondered chi. You're talkin' too one of most non-loyal equipment user on this board. I use 'em all. I have a Track Inertia for this year and like it a lot. Dry Heat laying around that's all the Track stuff I have now.

Current balls used.

Visionary (2)
Track (1)
Storm (1)
RotoGrip (1)
LM/L (1-2) Probably moving them not getting much use.
Ebonite (1) Might be gone soon. Lost reaction.
C300 (2)
AMF (1)

I understand brand loyalty. Just not for me.
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chitown · « **Reply #6 on:** February 10, 2007, 08:12:23 PM »

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I agree chitown. I said the same thing a few days ago (it's only a bowling ball!), and I got my head bit off by a couple certain individuals

REV O, I don't understand why these guys would bash you for making that statement. For me it's all about making money and having fun bowling. I take this sport pretty serious and am on a big money, tough lane conditions league.

If i'm using Hammer but columbia has a ball that sparks my interest then I will grab it. I don't care if Columbia makes it or not. I care about how it rolls for me. I care about how much money I can make using that ball. The heck with brand loyalty. Now I'm more prone to using another Hammer product because i've had success with them but that doesn't mean I won't try another company's equipment.

The only company I don't use is Brunswick. The Mexico thing bothers me. I know it may be dumb to others but it bothers me. Plus there are so many other bowling balls out there that I don't even need to look at Brunswick.

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chitown · « **Reply #7 on:** February 10, 2007, 08:50:54 PM »

Lane1BOWLER, I totally understand about matching up to a particular company's equipment. However I feel that this is exaggerated. I may match up well with some Hammer bowling balls but not all of them. Don't forget that there are different covers on these ball within particular lines.

I use the PAIN which has the JUICED reactive coverstock. The HAWGWILD has the CT coverstock. Same company but different covers. Just because there the same company doesn't mean that i'm going to match up well with all there equipment.

I used to roll only Track equipment for a couple years. Each ball was working great. Then a few of there releases didn't match up well with me at all. That's when I tried Hammer. The DOOM worked great for me. Then I tried the PAIN. Yet again it worked great for me. Then I tried the BW. Didn't work great for me.

My point is your saying that it makes a big difference. I disagree with that. I don't know any bowler that matches up well with every ball in a company's line. If that's the case then i'm sure other company's would have bowling balls that would work great for them.

I'm sure all bowlers could find bowling balls from every company that work well for them.

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chitown · « **Reply #8 on:** February 10, 2007, 08:55:14 PM »

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It's great to not understand brand-bias because it isn't an issue for you. Any decent hack can go out there with just about any ball from any company and avg. 210 with the way house shots are nowadays. But having the right roll and matchup to your game is important and on challenging shots it really shows. Confidence in your equipment is a major key to this game.

I bowl on tough conditions every single week in my big money league. I understand about matching up a ball, layout and condition. Most bowling balls work well on house shots but there's not a lot that work great on tough patterns. I have said this many times.

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chitown · « **Reply #9 on:** February 10, 2007, 08:57:08 PM »

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I get more predictability out of Lane#1 than any other company. And that is when I'm comfortable; when I feel entirely confident that I know exactly where the ball is going when it leaves my hand.

Did you not match up when Columbia started making the covers for LANE 1?
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six pack · « **Reply #10 on:** February 10, 2007, 08:57:20 PM »

the only thing I'm afraid of is with less competition the quality will go down and the prices will go up.paying 300-400 bucks may become a common price in the very near future.Elite prices on every Ebo made ball with Brunswick and and Storm following suit.the advantage will lean twoards the bowlers with the largest wallets.on the other hand if you are the hot shot bowler you think you are then two balls will be all you'll ever need.
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splendorlex · « **Reply #11 on:** February 10, 2007, 09:44:29 PM »

I said this in another thread, and I'll say it again. I don't think Ebonite bought Columbia to throw an Ebonite cover on a Track core, or vice versa. Ebonite, since buying hammer, have made a POINT to keep the lines separate. They don't share coverstocks or core technology or really philosophy. Ebonite and Hammer are two very well defined, separate lines. I suspect much of what makes Track Track will remain the same, though I would expect some marketing changes and similar stuff. We ain't gonna see a Robo core with a GB 10.7 cover.
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T Brockette · « **Reply #12 on:** February 10, 2007, 10:02:53 PM »

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according to Jim King of BTM Magazine, it was only an "Asset" buyout. Land, machines, buildings, inventory, supplies,etc. Storm, Lane#1, and AMF will be made there for 60 days then everything goes to Ky. AMF and Lane#1 will have to find a new maker. Storm will start making the balls that Columbia was making for them. Ebonite will take over marketing and promotion for Columbia, Track, and Dynothane. No news on Dynorooz. No more Circle balls

Deadbait,

I believe that everything you said is correct with the exception about the land. What we are getting down here is that the land is not part of the deal.
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REVerse · « **Reply #13 on:** February 10, 2007, 10:15:00 PM »

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I said this in another thread, and I'll say it again. I don't think Ebonite bought Columbia to throw an Ebonite cover on a Track core, or vice versa. Ebonite, since buying hammer, have made a POINT to keep the lines separate. They don't share coverstocks or core technology or really philosophy. Ebonite and Hammer are two very well defined, separate lines. I suspect much of what makes Track Track will remain the same, though I would expect some marketing changes and similar stuff.

I hope the marketing changes include a new and improved Track website. It gave me fits every time that I tried to logon. Geesh...
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9orbetter · « **Reply #14 on:** February 11, 2007, 10:11:30 AM »

I'm not upset with what has happened and I throw Track exclusively. I will just be stocking a few Power Machines,EQ and a E^2 in my closet next to my 2 5.0s... Lets not sway from the reality of business. These things happen and so be it happened to a ball company that matches my game. Its not the first time and probably not the last. Let's just hope they will continue making a great product. I remember a quite a few companies making bowling balls in the 70s and 80s and you only see them now as possible houseballs...my .02...9
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