Author Topic: How accurate are you? (Read 2942 times)

tenpinspro · « **on:** January 09, 2008, 01:15:21 AM »

This is a higher level practice technique I grew up with in Chicago.

At the arrows, go ahead (w/ permission from the house of course) and "tape" down a quarter on a board or so of your choice and see how many times you can hit that quarter. The ball should thump or you'll hear it or as it rolls over it. Back in my day, it was a dime and if you couldn't hit it more then 8 times, you weren't that good!... I'll give you guys a quarter due to equipment strength and area created by technology. These days....you can still get to the pocket effectively easily with that much room.

My average?...I used to be able to go 8-9 out of 10 but my buddies on Touring 1 (highest) just put me to shame (we had separate categories for touring to regional pro players way back when) so I knew where I stood with them.

(Sorry, interjection....Touring pros 1&2 and then Regional guys... Forgot what it meant exactly but I think it it was similar to Touring 1 being "exempt" and "non" which still had to qualify from week to week thru rabbits....now aka PTQ)

Understood that today's game no longer takes that kind of accuracy.....but imagine what your scores can be like if you were able to hit that quarter everytime (assuming you were lined up correctly....that's the next month's tip/excerpt from my book)

One more note....NO cheating!..lol You still have to throw the ball normally or with close to the same amount of lift effort as you normally do. I learned I could fluff it and hit it 10/10...lol Maybe this says something about your personal game, huh?........I'm not your Prez without reason.....

Good luck and have fun practicing......we at Track will always be here to help improve our fellow bowler! The LEGION LIVES!.......

on edit: After hitting the board(s) of your choice to satisfaction....move it. If you can do this effectively, I'll explain what you've accomplished.....

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Edited on 1/9/2008 10:29 AM

mumzie · « **Reply #16 on:** January 11, 2008, 11:17:59 PM »

Sawbones has an interesting technique. Instead of a piece of tape, he uses a piece of paper. when you're done, the oil marks on the paper show not only how well you hit your intended target, it also gives an indication of how far you miss, and what trajectory your ball was following WHEN it hit your target.

Lefty - I agree wholeheartedly - I've always been extremely accurate. There's no prize money for hitting your target - only for carrying the shot. I've been trying to loosen up and target an "area" - it works sometimes, but not always.
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mpwebber · « **Reply #17 on:** January 12, 2008, 01:50:09 PM »

It is almost like there are two games of bowling today.
Accuracy is one way to improve, but the winner in the modern game seems to be the guy who can generate the most area AND carry. And carry is not a game of luck.

I bowl with a guy who has a very simple game and is quite accurate. Often I find that he plays the wrong part of the lane because he does not miss his mark often enough to know he is in the wrong area of the lane. The problem is that when he does miss, he pays a high price. Now when the pattern becomes more difficult it is hard to beat him, but on an easier pattern, he is at a disadvantage.

crankncrash · « **Reply #18 on:** January 14, 2008, 05:04:06 PM »

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It is almost like there are two games of bowling today.
Accuracy is one way to improve, but the winner in the modern game seems to be the guy who can generate the most area AND carry. And carry is not a game of luck.

I bowl with a guy who has a very simple game and is quite accurate. Often I find that he plays the wrong part of the lane because he does not miss his mark often enough to know he is in the wrong area of the lane. The problem is that when he does miss, he pays a high price. Now when the pattern becomes more difficult it is hard to beat him, but on an easier pattern, he is at a disadvantage.

Do you know me? haha just kidding, I used to be the guy that could kick ur lilly arse on any shot because I was accurate enough to hit my marks and still loose enough to carry. NOW, the equipment is so much stronger that unless I got retroactive or to plastic, I can't play up the boards on a house shot.. Another words, I went from one house averaging 214 with a few beverages a night to a whole new game... I hurt my wrist, litterally dumped all of my equipment in favor of lighter stuff and can't do a darn thing now. I can't throw anything that I have had up the boards in the houses I'm in now, I was using an old quantum fire and taking everything I could out of it to get it up the boards last year. So now I have conseded that I have to swing the ball, and I am not as consistant with that. I like PBA because its a tighter shot and I stand a chance! The last tourney I bowled in, I shoot 198 with 2 ten pin misses (don't ask), and had the high score for the first game by 20 pins across the house! I felt I was struggling, but nobody for nobody could score because they couldn't hit a mark consistantly ( at least that is what I saw on my pair) I backed that game with 19x's and won the tourney with a decent performance from my partner who also is a more accurate than power player. I have a power game, but its not accurate and I don't like going to it.. I guess its time to hit this drill with the "strong release" BTW the last time I played the game I was 19 of 20 with 15 in a row, but I wasn't carrying crap because I was going up the boards to do it..

LuckyLefty · « **Reply #19 on:** January 15, 2008, 02:07:57 PM »

In golf where the friction in the air is pretty consistent...(or one must judge direction of the wind).

No one pays attention to where they are at the midpoint of a shot...only the end point!

BUT frankly when I watch two handers on a league condition I am convinced that the key to bowling on league conditions is a strong release, getting ones feet in the right place and the proper ball.

As one progresses to tougher conditions accuracy goes up in importance but after watching Wes Malott on the cheetah pattern this week win in Medford one cannot discount the advantage of smooth and powerful release. (WHat about the one shot he threw near the end of the match that touched the 1/2 board and still struck...was it accuracy or a strong release?)

REgards,

Luckylefty
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tenpinspro · « **Reply #20 on:** January 15, 2008, 03:34:28 PM »

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In golf where the friction in the air is pretty consistent...(or one must judge direction of the wind).

No one pays attention to where they are at the midpoint of a shot...only the end point!

BUT frankly when I watch two handers on a league condition I am convinced that the key to bowling on league conditions is a strong release, getting ones feet in the right place and the proper ball.

As one progresses to tougher conditions accuracy goes up in importance but after watching Wes Malott on the cheetah pattern this week win in Medford one cannot discount the advantage of smooth and powerful release. (WHat about the one shot he threw near the end of the match that touched the 1/2 board and still struck...was it accuracy or a strong release?)

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Very interesting post LL and crankncrash,

*To hijack my own post*

When did speed become a factor in our game in order to become successful? I'm with crankncrash when the game was more about accuracy and hand positions vs speed and revs. Don't get me wrong, speed and revs did always fair well but for some, accuracy still played a large part in our success as a bowler.

These days it does seem (unless we're on a sport shot of some type) that he/she who has more revs and speed will dominate. Equipment has played a large part in this factor as to why I explain to my customers why we don't allow aluminum bats in pro baseball (everybody would/can hit homeruns) and NCGA stopped golfclubs at titanium. If all of us could hit a golfball 300+ yards, who's Tiger? Bowling never stopped folks....ABC did not have the vision to see what was coming from manufacturers and what technology was going to do.
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crankncrash · « **Reply #21 on:** January 17, 2008, 02:33:11 PM »

More to that point, golf is STILL about accuracy, I have litterally met ONE person that consistantly outdrives me and hes considered the biggest hitter in the area. Honestly his best to my best I think we are fairly even, the difference is, hes a better golfer than me, power to power, we are even enough that it isn't a big deal, accuracy he kicks my arse. Thats the difference between me at a 10 handicap and him at a 2 as a horrible putter. The USGA shut down clubs, but still hasn't done anything to golf BALLS and thats where the game is getting out of hand.. All that doesn't matter. The real point of it all is that golf still REQUIRES accuracy to score, bowling really no longer does. I can say without question, its a hell of a lot harder to hit a fairway than a lane and thats all it seems to take now.

LuckyLefty · « **Reply #22 on:** January 18, 2008, 09:46:05 AM »

Hell of a lot harder to hit a fairway than a lane?

How about a hell of a lot harder to hit a fairway than between arrows?
Brings up the question...for whom? Depends on your swing.

I personnally do not see all this bad bowling going on in the 220 range that other bowlers are seeing.

Yesterday I saw a precision woman bowler who wins a lot of tournies and has numerous 300s and I believe an 8 shoot a tiny 6...say 620. She had a bad luck 170 game to start with a couple of pocket 7-10s....swtiched balls and with luck could have had 290 the second game.

Also had a powerhouse bowler with what I consider the perfect league release shoot 655. He looks like a no thumber but isn't (it is just his thumb comes out so early creating beautiful free revs...somewhat similar to a Wes Mallott release)! He was rewarded for his powerhouse release and has more area than the board splicer above.

So it would be with golf with graduated rough and somewhat how it is as Tiger and Vijays stats for total driving are down....over the past few years and yet with their rough escape abity and square grooves they are able to play great while 8 years ago almost always the leaders in total driving(accuracy and distance combined led the money list.

REgards,

LUckylefty
PS in golf there is Jim Furyk(board splicer) and Tiger Woods(only a board splicer second half of last year). Take your pick.

So equipment advances.
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crankncrash · « **Reply #23 on:** January 18, 2008, 12:29:17 PM »

Well Mr. Lefty, I have to agree with you to an extent. Power in golf with great accuracy (I don't care how innacurate anybody thinks that ANYBODY on the PGA tour is they are professionally accurate) will win. Especially with todays idea of lengthen the course to take tiger's advantage away.. umm yea, add distance so the power guys loose their advantage over short hitters.. that makes sence. Anyway, I think its easier to be a power bowler and hit the lane anywhere on the right half (for righties) and still being able to strike. Now I do agree with you, power is great and you should be rewarded as it is a skill. Ultimately you have to be accurate to average 220, I think there are those guys that can do that in a house on a cupcake shot, and they are not as good as the guys that average 210 on a tough shot. That said, there are not that many real grip and rip guys that AVERAGE 220, do they hit it, yeah, but they don't average it. And to that end I agree that people make too big of a deal out it. I can open it up when I need to, but I personally would rather feel like I am hitting a mark to score and don't have faith in stand left, throw right. The last time I bowled I was a on a pair with a 220 house avg bowler and I kicked his ______ because it was a shot that demanded accuracy and his power didn't do him much good. That is why I say 220 isn't 200 of yesteryear. But alas this doens't matter at all, I just like to walk in to a tough tournament setting and take the money.

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