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LuckyLefty

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Track Solution EX
« on: September 28, 2005, 02:27:34 AM »
Two of our local stars(well known on the national amateur scene) came in yesterday and threw the Track Solution EX in league.

First game from one of our stars 290!  Not a bad demo!
Other guy grabbed it and was thowing it too and looked great with it!

Both are strong hi speed bowlers.

Our condition, 40 feet of oil at 5:30 am followed by a short run of 16 feet at 5:00 after a long day of open play.  Usual condition is wet heads, dry midlanes, sloppy backends.  A ball that has a description that it does not read the midlanes quickly is quite good for this condition.

Whether it would look as good in my hands or other less skilled flingers I'm not sure.

Cheap enough and hot enough lookin to be worth a try!

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Re: Track Solution EX
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2005, 10:32:14 AM »
LL,
How high speed are they?
I was thinking of drilling on of the Track Solution balls for my Sport league.
I throw in the 16-17 mph range.

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Re: Track Solution EX
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2005, 10:42:18 AM »
Your range to faster.

I don't see these as Sport league balls...at least not the EX.

When I think of sport league I think of strong midlane.  softer backend as the usual solution.

As see this ball (the EX) as the reverse of that application.

My best sport or world team challenge balls have been strong midlane less backend balls.  Crimson Sledgehammer (kicked out cg and weighthole on pap) and a Ti Hawk.

The PP Solution may be different with it's stronger solid cover stock.

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Re: Track Solution EX
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2005, 10:49:03 AM »
Nice report Lucky, do you have any idea of what the layout looked like on the EX?

Thanks!
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Re: Track Solution EX
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2005, 11:05:41 AM »
quote:
LL,
How high speed are they?
I was thinking of drilling on of the Track Solution balls for my Sport league.
I throw in the 16-17 mph range.

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Ex is not a sport league ball unless you drill it pin down, hole down AND add 2000 grit abralon. Too strong on the backend, too too strong.
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Re: Track Solution EX
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2005, 11:27:58 AM »
quote:
Your range to faster.

I don't see these as Sport league balls...at least not the EX.

When I think of sport league I think of strong midlane.  softer backend as the usual solution.

As see this ball (the EX) as the reverse of that application.

My best sport or world team challenge balls have been strong midlane less backend balls.  Crimson Sledgehammer (kicked out cg and weighthole on pap) and a Ti Hawk.

The PP Solution may be different with it's stronger solid cover stock.

REgards,

Luckylefty


Looking at the Track web site, yesterday, the EX is rated more length, less hook, than the PP? I was thinking of playing a down and in around 8-9 board, with the ball. Up the back more, with a little more speed? Take the cover down with a 2000 grit abralon pad? Worth a shot?


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Re: Track Solution EX
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2005, 11:47:40 AM »
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Ex is not a sport league ball unless you drill it pin down, hole down AND add 2000 grit abralon. Too strong on the backend, too too strong.


charlest,
Any other Track balls, you would recommend? I have a Storm Hot Rod Pro Stock Pearl, drilled stacked. I was thinking of taking the polish down and give that a try. So far I can't move my feet left of 25 with my Animals, or Havoc. I'm averaging 182 on the shot.
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Re: Track Solution EX
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2005, 11:53:12 AM »
I'm sorry I don't ...but I plan on getting together with the star on a drilling for an Animal Untamed.

Maybe i'll see then and repost.

IT was real pretty teal though!

I think drilling was real simple but just can't see it in my mind's eye.

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Luckylefty
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Re: Track Solution EX
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2005, 11:53:33 AM »
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charlest,
Any other Track balls, you would recommend? I have a Storm Hot Rod Pro Stock Pearl, drilled stacked. I was thinking of taking the polish down and give that a try. So far I can't move my feet left of 25 with my Animals, or Havoc. I'm averaging 182 on the shot.
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Both the Monsoon on the HRPS and PPEx on the Solutions PP Ex are not weak coverstocks. Their highly polished surfaces all them to be used on less than medium oil.

How much oil you have on your sport shot is the question.?.?
Why can't you move left with (which?) Animals? too much oil, not enough recovery?


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Re: Track Solution EX
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2005, 12:28:59 PM »
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Both the Monsoon on the HRPS and PPEx on the Solutions PP Ex are not weak coverstocks. Their highly polished surfaces all them to be used on less than medium oil.

How much oil you have on your sport shot is the question.?.?
Why can't you move left with (which?) Animals? too much oil, not enough recovery?



39 foot pattern. (Reading from left) at 22 foot: 33-38 units from 8 to 8; 39 foot: 8 units from 3 to 12; 16 units from 12 to 32; 9 units from 32 >.

I have a 5 board drift right when I set up from 19 to 22, I drift 4-5 boards right (inconsistently)...loose leverage and ball sails. Further left with my feet and the balls hook early. I've been working with a coach (Lyle Zikes), I also bowl on his team. He thinks I'm doing fine with my mechanics, and is urging me to play straight up, squared up. When I do I shoot 140-160. I shoot better from inside...There are 2 PBA lefties (Brad Snell, and Chuck Halfpap) that play out between 7-10, and are averaging 200+. Maybe I'm grasping at straws...Move deeper and play my game?

Sorry for the ramble.
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Re: Track Solution EX
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2005, 01:37:24 PM »
That oil doesn't seem too bad; surprised it's hooking early inside. Well, "inisde" is relative - given you say feet starting at 25, with 5 board drift, and minimum 7 board for ball laydown point at the foul line, probably results in playing 12 crossing 9/10 board at the arrows out to XXXX at breakpoint.

I've also been trying to redcue revs in order to play straighter on house shots - too much hook without higher ball speed usually = loss of carry power.

you might use a solutions PP or Slash BUT with very fine grit, like 2000 grit (might even be able to use the 4000 grit Abralon pad), as previously suggested. Your rev rate kind of indicates you might need long but low pin position, maybe 5" or 5.5" but under the middle finger to start up revs early but smoothign out the overall hook AND the breakpoint. Polish is not often good on sport shots, unless the ball is already a very mild one, like the Desert Heat. The DH is probably too weak for your shot.  

I playing with a very mild solid reactive righ tnow, with the above pin position to see how direct I can play and still retain hitting power, with control. Actually, I've done exactly what I described in the above paragraph.

Also you might want to try putting your fingers in a weaker starting position to reduce the power applied to the ball. Example: if you keep your fingers at the downswing at 7:00 (before the release point), try keeping them at 6:00 or even 5:00. Keep the same wrist position. As an alternative, try reduce your angle of rotation at the release point. That'll also get an earlier breakpoint with less backend, in general. That adds control that's essential to battle sport shots.

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Re: Track Solution EX
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2005, 01:44:06 PM »
Duke--I have a question since Brad Snell and the other lefty are whacking them pretty well on their trajectory why can't you move to that line?

Just wondering.  I know Brad from regionals.

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Re: Track Solution EX
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2005, 03:48:17 PM »
I"m hearing from some that this ball is close to the Hex.

But I don't see it!

I see the core has the famous Elite shape but the rg is lower and the diff is lower....40 versus .48.

I see the Hex as a Midlane smooth backend ball.  In fact as a sport ball I think with the right surface it could be awesome.  Great midlane a small kick out for a stabilizing weighthole and voila!

I own a Hex.  Boy this Solution EX was a lot straighter to the break.

Now I have to see the drill!

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Luckylefty
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Re: Track Solution EX
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2005, 04:24:46 PM »
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I"m hearing from some that this ball is close to the Hex. But I don't see it!

I see the Hex as a Midlane smooth backend ball.  In fact as a sport ball I think with the right surface it could be awesome.  Great midlane a small kick out for a stabilizing weighthole and voila!

I own a Hex.  Boy this Solution EX was a lot straighter to the break.

REgards,
Luckylefty


I agree. My Hex is very evenand eve smooth, more like the CrunchTime, but handled maybe even more oil.

I suspect, but do not know, that the Hex might have had some particles in it which was the reason for its grippiness. Some drillings might and higher revs might make it more flippy than mine looks, but it is mostly an arc-ing ball reaction.

The Solutions PP Ex can flip fairly hard and my pin in not high. I've tried it on medium oil and last night on medium-light that deteriorated at the end to very light. It moves strongly on both of them.

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Re: Track Solution EX
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2005, 05:07:08 PM »
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Duke--I have a question since Brad Snell and the other lefty are whacking them pretty well on their trajectory why can't you move to that line?

Just wondering.  I know Brad from regionals.

Scott


Scott,

I drift right when I get into that area...I'm working with Lyle Zikes on my mechanics. I'm in a 4-step, on my 2nd step I have a tendency to step off to the right. I target at about 35 feet (due to macular degeneration in both eyes).

I was watching Brad bowl Monday, and as you know he gets pretty down into his shot pretty well with a deep knee bend.

I worked on playing that line for 3 hours today...It's going to take some practice. Any tips on walking straight? Right now, I'm trying to concentrate on the feeling I get when I put my 2nd step in front of the first step...feels like I'm walking on a "tight rope"

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