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tenpinspro

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Arsenal Angular Review
« on: March 10, 2005, 09:18:54 PM »
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Lane conditions: med to med/med oil

I’ve been throwing this ball for about a month now and I feel pretty comfortable to write it up.  In relationship to the Track Line, this ball is about 3-4 boards stronger than the Xception.  It can handle a little heavier oil and offers a very strong backend on that condition.

It is very clean through the fronts with good read in the mids and finishes very well.  The strength of this ball to me however is when I can stroke it or push it to the free hook and it just charges back on its own.  I mention the stroke or push because a majority of bowlers are faster than me, so getting thru the heads and playing more of the dry area will offer most of you great recovery strength and finish downlane.

It can definitely eat through the carry down without a problem and the hit is very strong.  A very nice compliment to the Xception or a great benchmark ball to start with on your average house shots.

On edit: I forgot to mention to those who had doubt about their driller's knowledge with mass bias, this is our high performance "symmetrical" line.  They shouldn't have any problems drilling this ball along with the Arsenal Agressive.
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Re: Arsenal Angular Review
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2005, 06:24:56 AM »
Rick - I have an Xception & thinking about an Angular. However, I also have an Untamed and a Slash. Do I really need the Angular and where would it fit in? When you say '3-4 boards more than Xception' is that throughout the lane? What about the backend? Length? THANKS
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Re: Arsenal Angular Review
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2005, 07:33:51 AM »
ozsweet,

The Angular is going to give you a different look than the Untamed and the Slash. I totally agree with Rick on the 3-4 boards more than Xception. It is throughout the lane-----it reads the lanes a bit sooner and has VERY close backend reaction to the Xception.

Rick, has this ball caught alot of attention in your YABA leagues?


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Re: Arsenal Angular Review
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2005, 02:47:53 PM »
Hey oz,

It will be a good compliment to the Xception because the coverstock is stronger overall and can read what I call med/med oil (step under med/heavy) very well.  For those who do not encounter heavier oil, the Angular is a great 1st ball out of bag and then you(oz) can go to the Xception as the shot breaks down.

 
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Rick, has this ball caught alot of attention in your YABA leagues?
 


Yes it has.  In actuality, I bowled a regional adult/jr tourney with my good friend's (bowl400) son and I was asked which one of us was the adult (he was taller)..  We won the scatch div btw...
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Re: Arsenal Angular Review
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2005, 02:57:43 PM »
rick, how heavy is this one? 5.8 lbs?
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Re: Arsenal Angular Review
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2005, 03:13:21 PM »
for me angular is a much better fit lets me move inside and boom it some which would be about were Rick starts from in the first place The xception for me just skated to much upfront and overreacted on the wet/dry blend i normally bowl on were the Angular reads true and makes it move off the dry harder.
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Re: Arsenal Angular Review
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2005, 08:33:28 PM »
Thanks for the help.
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Re: Arsenal Angular Review
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2005, 08:38:01 PM »
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Have you noticed any loss in backend reaction?? I've had one for about three weeks.  When I first got it, it was wicked on the back ends. I left four nine pins in the first game and a half.  But the backend has been getting weaker and weaker.  I've been bowling on the same pattern, same house with it.  I'm about 7 boards right with my feet then i was when i first got it.  Any ideas on how to get my reaction back?  I don't think it's the oil pattern, I know the pattern hasn't been changed in over two years, and my other stuff reacts the same as usual.


clean and polish it. mine was kind of dying on the backends, polished it tuesday, shot 279-279  the last 2 games with it. i wish i would have started the night with it!!
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Re: Arsenal Angular Review
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2005, 11:37:22 PM »
chitown,

when the shine starts to wear off of a ball usually it causes it to roll earlier thus losing backend. The fact that it is particle will contribute to that once the polish is wearing off in the track area.

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Re: Arsenal Angular Review
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2005, 08:50:09 AM »
Sounds to me like your release angles are changing so that your original track line is migrating and you are getting the 'wide' spot at the center of the bow tie. If your release is completely consistent, you shouldn't have that problem. However, if you like to change hand positions (like I do), then you won't get a true read on the flare.
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Re: Arsenal Angular Review
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2005, 10:17:26 AM »
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I think mine is over-flaring and causing the weakness in the backend reaction. I just noticed today that the track at the bowties is about 1/2" wide. How can I cut down the flare? I already have a weight hole. would drilling the fingers or thumb deeper help any??  


Hey jeremy, your wider flare is most likely coming from your personal release to the layout of the ball.  It tells me your weightblock is moving towards its psa too quickly which then in turn can become rollout (which explains your dying look).  Is this pin on this ball drilled in a leverage position for you?  I only tend to see this more when I drill an aggressive ball with a max to high flare pattern.  Try it on heavier oil and see if the ball will store better energy for you, right now it sounds more like you're not matching up to enough oil for the ball.  I also have not noticed any loss of reaction from my Angular, matter of fact, I have to kill it some just to control the backends at my speed and tilt.
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Re: Arsenal Angular Review
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2005, 12:34:58 PM »
Hey fellas I was considering picking up one of these to compliment my xception and rule. How much stronger is the angular then the xception. And which one of these do you think would be the best to grab first if I were to grab only one at the moment.
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Re: Arsenal Angular Review
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2005, 12:59:20 PM »
lil,

The Angular would fit between the Rule and Xception very well. It is about 3-4 boards stronger throughout the lane. The Rule will roll up quicker and is a few boards stronger than the Angular. I think the three of them would give the better look than adding the Aggressive.

The Aggressive would probably end up being too close to the Rule.

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