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loose5682

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Unleashed control drilling?
« on: May 14, 2004, 12:11:03 PM »
What type of drilling would go well with a Phenom Unleashed if i'm looking for a control-type reaction out of it.  Doesn't need a TON of flare, but a good amount would work.  I have one drilled for a bit of length and a good pop on the backend (love it, shot my first set with it tonight and already walked out with some cash from the pot games) with the setup of pin below ring finger, MB below and to the right of the thumb about 2 or so inches (one inch pin on this one).  Looking for a layout that might give me a little smoother reaction (if that's feasible with this ball, hopefully that doesn't entirely defeat the purpose of the Unleashed) so that if Unleashed #1 is a little squirty/over-under, I can switch to this one to even out the lanes a bit.  All help is much appreciated, thanks!
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Re: Unleashed control drilling?
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2004, 03:23:18 AM »
I would think going with something with a very similiar pin position, but move the MB over towards or even on your VAL. This will make the ball roll sooner, but not react as hard on the backend. The Unleashed is a very versatile ball, so going with a drilling like that wouldn't be bad.

If you try that layout on an Unleashed and it is still too much on the backend just take the suface down a bit, maybe like 1000 smooth. This will also help tame the breakpoint.

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Re: Unleashed control drilling?
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2004, 03:24:41 AM »
Ok, now VAL is Vertical Axis Line...it's late and i'm tired but where exactly is that again??
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Re: Unleashed control drilling?
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2004, 03:32:35 AM »
Nevermind, I looked it up, and that suggestion makes sense...now what would I do if I went the other way with the MB?  Instead of going towards or on my VAL, what if I went further away, such as on or near the other side of the thumb (as in Track's MB Placement 1 on the Phenom Unleashed drill sheet)?
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Re: Unleashed control drilling?
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2004, 01:20:37 PM »
Hey Andrew,(I still owe you and Ex for the "Mr" bit)

The only concern I have for you placing the mb in track is, due to your extremely high track, you may end up clipping the fingers and thumb.  With the mb in that position it'll want to pull your track up vs the mass bias flaring downwards if it were placed on it's side.  This in a generic definition is how that positioning creates length.  

I like Ex's recommendation (mb on val) but I have my pin directly under the bridge for even more of a stable reaction and my mb is also kicked out on my val.  If you want more control, the pin placed here should help do that.  This currently gives me a very nice hard controlled arcing motion.  I think if you do this and then high gloss it, it will give you a very different look from Unleashed #1, it will not be skid/flippy at all but very controlled and you can use it on a little drier condition as well.  Let me know if this is what you're looking for.  Glad to hear my first layout is working as well....see, nothing can replace age and experience...except a brand new sports car

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Re: Unleashed control drilling?
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2004, 01:32:44 PM »
I agree with Mr Leong 100%, it can make it flare over the the holes for you.

Placing the MB in the track area also makes the ball very skid flippy. Going further away with the pin, such as under the bridge as he also mentioned would make it Arc even more.

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Re: Unleashed control drilling?
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2004, 07:46:19 PM »
So we'll go with pin under the bridge and the MB on or very near the VAL...sounds like a plan to me!  I'm drooling again already...and while nothing can replace age and experience like a new sports car, i'm happy to report that I did just get my first car, a '99 Chevy Malibu in awesome condition!  Ok, done bragging...thanks much for the input guys!
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Re: Unleashed control drilling?
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2004, 12:12:49 AM »
loose5682
  What is your axis point?

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Re: Unleashed control drilling?
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2004, 01:10:27 AM »
why fight the beast?

Unleashed is a design to flip. yes you can tame it down but I don't think you will like it do be a transition ball. I had 2 drilled differently. I could cover a lot lane reaction between them but the were not really for playing off each other.

for me, control = arc and midlane read. a phenom or an animal would do nicely.

Try the animal at a 5 x 3 pin under ring to complement the unleashed for transition on the same amount of oil. I find  when the unleashed is reading the backend too hard the animal is smoother on the backend.  I also fing the animal to be a little straighter through the heads so you can play near the same line as long as thier is some reasonable amount of oil left.





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Re: Unleashed control drilling?
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2004, 05:46:10 PM »
track-atl...not entirely sure on the axis point, i'm a ridiculously high-tracker, if that helps at all...

Omega...i've heard good on the Animal, however from what i've seen it's going to be a bit stronger than what i'm looking for, plus I have a good deal on a Phenom U.
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Re: Unleashed control drilling?
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2004, 12:19:03 AM »
Very nice, it's always good to see people not only throwing Track, but having success with it as well.  I don't see many Track balls in my area, just a few here and there, it's really quite sad actually.  I feel that if I truly stacked an Unleashed, it would over-react for me, not necessarily in total hook (cause I could control it) but in the way that I already have a ball that flat out hooks REAL smooth (a stacked Fuel at 600 grit wet-sand).  Unleashed #2 is going to be something to even out the reaction for me, but not hook a TON.  I see more medium to medium-heavy in my area, never really a true flood, never really too close to the Sahara, that being the case, i'm very top heavy in my arsenal with three particles (Fuel, 2 Unleasheds) and a beast of a reactive ball (Apocalypse).  The second Unleashed basically will close the gap between the 1st Unleashed and the Apocalypse (as made evident last week when I tried to make the direct step down from Unleashed to Apocalypse and consequentially watched the ball absolutely DRILL the 3-6 "pocket" leaving me a washout and costing me third game scratch pot...).
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Re: Unleashed control drilling?
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2004, 03:43:25 PM »
loose,
Im glad you see this too. Well not glad, you know what I mean. The Apocalypse does have the "tendency" to squirt.
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