Post by: htownstaff on June 03, 2008, 03:14:44 AM
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Post by: Weaser on June 03, 2008, 11:45:49 AM
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Post by: htownstaff on June 03, 2008, 12:03:57 PM
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Post by: sdogg on June 03, 2008, 03:59:40 PM
Post by: Grayson on June 03, 2008, 04:13:41 PM
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Post by: Xcessive_Evil on June 03, 2008, 05:49:12 PM
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Post by: NJStroker on June 03, 2008, 07:13:43 PM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to thinking that if they buy a new ball they will carry everything. And its even funnier when im carrying with my 15 year old ball and they're going flat ten.
Post by: Billy Ray on June 03, 2008, 08:46:15 PM
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Yet another ball i probably won't try out because im not fully trusting in this new equipment
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to thinking that if they buy a new ball they will carry everything. And its even funnier when im carrying with my 15 year old ball and they're going flat ten.
So what don't you trust about the new equipment? We have Quality Manufacturer, Proven R&D Teams and Proven Chemists. I kind of at a loss with your comment? Please elaborate.
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Post by: sdbowler on June 03, 2008, 09:13:10 PM
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Post by: NJStroker on June 03, 2008, 09:18:08 PM
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Yet another ball i probably won't try out because im not fully trusting in this new equipment
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to thinking that if they buy a new ball they will carry everything. And its even funnier when im carrying with my 15 year old ball and they're going flat ten.
So what don't you trust about the new equipment? We have Quality Manufacturer, Proven R&D Teams and Proven Chemists. I kind of at a loss with your comment? Please elaborate.
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Billy Ray
Track Pro Staff
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to thinking that if they buy a new ball they will carry everything. And its even funnier when im carrying with my 15 year old ball and they're going flat ten.
Post by: flounder6639 on June 03, 2008, 10:28:45 PM
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Post by: sdogg on June 03, 2008, 11:06:30 PM
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Post by: louf846 on June 03, 2008, 11:09:09 PM
Walter, I haven't seen many people posting on here about how there Track balls have "died". Here is the honest truth about the balls I have drilled. Three Tempers, no decrease in performance over 100 plus games on each. Three Kinetics, one has seemed to tame down over time, was the first ball I drilled, has 300 games on it and a Track that is burned white from bowling practice on bad wood. Any companies ball under these circumstances would be beat up. Three KE, the first one I drilled has tamed down a tad, again, lots of games, bas wood, track is beat up. Three Rising, no issues. The balls that seem to be tamed down are still solid pieces and the ball track is so beat up, I think that it is an issue of not having a fresh coverstock contacting the lane versus ball death theory. I have nothing to gain from lying to you about this, this is just what I have seen and I have drilled a lot of balls this past year. I still bring balls with 150 games on it to tournaments and league because they still deliver results.
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Post by: williewc on June 03, 2008, 11:13:30 PM
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Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on June 03, 2008, 11:55:42 PM
Walter give me your shipping addres. Seeing how you dont want to go out there and pay for a brand new track ball. I am going to take care of you with a ball from the ebonite made track that I own. You can have it, get it plugged and drilled for you. It has been plugged before but it was drilled back in the same spot mostly. I will take the cover to box and everything. Just make sure you have it layed out correct. Or even give me your specs and I will drill it and ship it to you and eat the cost of what is used so you can see the performance from this new track stuff.
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Post by: Grayson on June 04, 2008, 01:17:43 AM
People kill them by not keeping them clean.
ok ok ok.... there are some balls that are very sensitive and finicky about maintenance. Other's just take it without big problems.
pearls in my experience take longer till you need to deep clean them and solid particles are worst ...
whatever...
Bottom line:
Any ball will sooner or later lose hook and carry if you let the oil soak in.
No matter what company... what coverstock... if you don't take care of your stuff its your own fault.
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Post by: hammermike2000 on June 04, 2008, 01:42:22 AM
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Walter give me your shipping addres. Seeing how you dont want to go out there and pay for a brand new track ball. I am going to take care of you with a ball from the ebonite made track that I own. You can have it, get it plugged and drilled for you. It has been plugged before but it was drilled back in the same spot mostly. I will take the cover to box and everything. Just make sure you have it layed out correct. Or even give me your specs and I will drill it and ship it to you and eat the cost of what is used so you can see the performance from this new track stuff.
...CLASSY move. If the performance of the equipment doesn't persuade you enough, I'm sure this does.
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Post by: chatnboy on June 04, 2008, 02:58:49 AM
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Post by: renoatpikeville on June 04, 2008, 03:02:47 AM
I just had to mention this. I've seen too many people do this, I just sit and scratch my head.
Post by: Grayson on June 04, 2008, 03:45:44 AM
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Make sure you clean them shortly after you bowl your 3-4 games of league. Please dont wait until 5 minutes before the next league session to clean them.
I just had to mention this. I've seen too many people do this, I just sit and scratch my head.
LMAO!
This is exactly what I see here!
Last frame's thrown... all pack up and head home. Only lonely Grayson is still there cleaning his balls.
Next league day:
Grayson comes just in time to get his balls out and up on the approach for warmup.
All others are there already cleaning their balls etc.
Makes me laugh!
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Edited on 6/4/2008 3:46 AM
Post by: NJStroker on June 04, 2008, 05:49:29 AM
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to thinking that if they buy a new ball they will carry everything. And its even funnier when im carrying with my 15 year old ball and they're going flat ten.
Post by: dizzyfugu on June 04, 2008, 06:14:11 AM
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I think that is the first time I have heard the weight of the core during an advertisement for a ball. Is 7 pounds around average weight for a core?
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"Brunswick has added a new twist to the Torsion core concept by producing an Asymmetric version for the Twisted Fury. The symmetric version of the Torsion core used in the original Fury was based on triangular geometry. The Asymmetric version is based on a six-sided polygon. The inner core of a 16-pound Twisted Fury weighs in at 6.36 pounds, resulting in a medium RG that helps push the aggressive EnMotion coverstock down the lane. Brunswick has put a new twist on core design so you can twist it up better on the lanes."
Not that the core weight in itself matters - better look at RG numbers and differential what's the core/filler/Ball combo is capable of
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Post by: Juggernaut on June 04, 2008, 08:57:09 AM
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Walter give me your shipping addres. Seeing how you dont want to go out there and pay for a brand new track ball. I am going to take care of you with a ball from the ebonite made track that I own. You can have it, get it plugged and drilled for you. It has been plugged before but it was drilled back in the same spot mostly. I will take the cover to box and everything. Just make sure you have it layed out correct. Or even give me your specs and I will drill it and ship it to you and eat the cost of what is used so you can see the performance from this new track stuff.
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Mark,
Pretty nice move to get someone to try out track stuff. Not many ( if ANY ) would do something so noble.
If I said I was afraid of the "ball death" boogieman, would you plug, re-drill, and ship me one too?
J/KBall death, as far as I can tell, is a myth. There is a guy here who takes really good care of his stuff and is still using an original columbia chaos ( yes, the one that was supposed to die from TEC death very quickly ) and it still works well, but, it has been meticulously maintained.
I haven't thrown any track stuff in a while ( BUT, I still use my old coral Triton
), but the new stuff sure has me looking HARD. Guy here has the Kinetic and just murders the rack with it. Another one has the Rising and it looks as smooth and predictable as my Gamebreaker.Track may have been a little slower to get up and running, but it looks like Figs was/is really putting some time into getting things right, and the new stuff is really starting to impress me.
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Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on June 04, 2008, 11:17:45 AM
The Rising looks smooth and controled on a THS. If you place this thing on a flat pattern or something with real good head oil and a good clean backend, say something like Shark or like I said just a flat oil pattern. You will see this thing turn harder then anything to come off that much oil. Even at 4000 when it comes off the pattern with that much oil and that flat it turns. When I was at State (OH) and the Hoinke. I was the only person in the buildings I was in using the Rising. I was also the only person able to play the part of the lane I was playing. Now how I shot we wont get into because I couldnt stand on my left knee without anything less then 5K mg of pain killers in me. Yet for me the Rising is the perfect ball because of the way it takes to cover changes and the layout options you can have.
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Youngstown, Ohio
Track HITMAN.
Tag Team Coaching Success Story.
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Post by: louf846 on June 04, 2008, 11:19:49 AM
Walter, I gave you the same offer a few month's ago and you never did respond. If you were truly interested in trying to the brand, I would have expected a reply. I gave a few of the balls I was done with to friends and they all love the product. They are looking forward to the new releases. With the seven ball assortment we have after July 15th, we are positioned to cover just about every condition you can encounter.
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Post by: Blackphantom1985 on June 04, 2008, 02:49:53 PM
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on June 04, 2008, 08:07:18 PM
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Walter give me your shipping addres. Seeing how you dont want to go out there and pay for a brand new track ball. I am going to take care of you with a ball from the ebonite made track that I own. You can have it, get it plugged and drilled for you. It has been plugged before but it was drilled back in the same spot mostly. I will take the cover to box and everything. Just make sure you have it layed out correct. Or even give me your specs and I will drill it and ship it to you and eat the cost of what is used so you can see the performance from this new track stuff.
Classy indeed and very respectable. Walter, tell us: Have you jumped on this yet?
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Post by: NJStroker on June 04, 2008, 08:07:59 PM
quote:Yes i have, i just hope this message goes through unlike the one i sent Lou not so long ago. I appreciate this so much to everyone who's offered to help me out and it sure is a class act and just more show of the LEGION being the LEGIONquote:
Walter give me your shipping addres. Seeing how you dont want to go out there and pay for a brand new track ball. I am going to take care of you with a ball from the ebonite made track that I own. You can have it, get it plugged and drilled for you. It has been plugged before but it was drilled back in the same spot mostly. I will take the cover to box and everything. Just make sure you have it layed out correct. Or even give me your specs and I will drill it and ship it to you and eat the cost of what is used so you can see the performance from this new track stuff.
Classy indeed and very respectable. Walter, tell us: Have you jumped on this yet?
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My current arsenal-www.putfile.com/trackbowler627
My videos-
www.youtube.com/Track8401
High game-300
High series-796
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to thinking that if they buy a new ball they will carry everything. And its even funnier when im carrying with my 15 year old ball and they're going flat ten.
Edited on 6/4/2008 8:10 PM
Post by: Brickguy221 on June 04, 2008, 09:37:28 PM
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The inner core of a 16-pound Twisted Fury weighs in at 6.36 pounds, resulting in a medium RG that helps push the aggressive EnMotion coverstock down the lane.
Dizzy, isn't the 6.36# core weight the same for all 3 ball weights of 14-15-16 lb. balls? Many (most?) companies (Legends/Lanemasters excluded) use the same weight core in all 3 of those ball weights.
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Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on June 05, 2008, 04:34:07 AM
quote:quote:Yes i have, i just hope this message goes through unlike the one i sent Lou not so long ago. I appreciate this so much to everyone who's offered to help me out and it sure is a class act and just more show of the LEGION being the LEGIONquote:
Walter give me your shipping addres. Seeing how you dont want to go out there and pay for a brand new track ball. I am going to take care of you with a ball from the ebonite made track that I own. You can have it, get it plugged and drilled for you. It has been plugged before but it was drilled back in the same spot mostly. I will take the cover to box and everything. Just make sure you have it layed out correct. Or even give me your specs and I will drill it and ship it to you and eat the cost of what is used so you can see the performance from this new track stuff.
Classy indeed and very respectable. Walter, tell us: Have you jumped on this yet?
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My current arsenal-www.putfile.com/trackbowler627
My videos-
www.youtube.com/Track8401
High game-300
High series-796
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to thinking that if they buy a new ball they will carry everything. And its even funnier when im carrying with my 15 year old ball and they're going flat ten.
Edited on 6/4/2008 8:10 PM
Yes I got your address. Just remember you got to get it drilled up right. I am sending you a ball that is in better condition then I planned and it isn't a lower cost ball. You are getting the thing that in my profile is listed ad being number 4 of the same ball.
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C-G Pro Shop
Official "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio
Track HITMAN.
Tag Team Coaching Success Story.
Happily distributing the red pills of CGNOMADDA. "if you take this pill, YOUR MIND WILL BE OPEN TO A WORLD NEW IDEAS."
Post by: NJStroker on June 05, 2008, 05:41:25 AM
quote:Scoot u don't know how much i appreciate this and i definetly will take care of this and report back of how i like it.quote:quote:Yes i have, i just hope this message goes through unlike the one i sent Lou not so long ago. I appreciate this so much to everyone who's offered to help me out and it sure is a class act and just more show of the LEGION being the LEGIONquote:
Walter give me your shipping addres. Seeing how you dont want to go out there and pay for a brand new track ball. I am going to take care of you with a ball from the ebonite made track that I own. You can have it, get it plugged and drilled for you. It has been plugged before but it was drilled back in the same spot mostly. I will take the cover to box and everything. Just make sure you have it layed out correct. Or even give me your specs and I will drill it and ship it to you and eat the cost of what is used so you can see the performance from this new track stuff.
Classy indeed and very respectable. Walter, tell us: Have you jumped on this yet?
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My current arsenal-www.putfile.com/trackbowler627
My videos-
www.youtube.com/Track8401
High game-300
High series-796
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to thinking that if they buy a new ball they will carry everything. And its even funnier when im carrying with my 15 year old ball and they're going flat ten.
Edited on 6/4/2008 8:10 PM
Yes I got your address. Just remember you got to get it drilled up right. I am sending you a ball that is in better condition then I planned and it isn't a lower cost ball. You are getting the thing that in my profile is listed ad being number 4 of the same ball.
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Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Official "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio
Track HITMAN.
Tag Team Coaching Success Story.
Happily distributing the red pills of CGNOMADDA. "if you take this pill, YOUR MIND WILL BE OPEN TO A WORLD NEW IDEAS."
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to thinking that if they buy a new ball they will carry everything. And its even funnier when im carrying with my 15 year old ball and they're going flat ten.
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on June 05, 2008, 12:56:48 PM
If you would have sent him #5, I'm sure he would have been won over. However, #4 is a great choice too.
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Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on June 05, 2008, 02:47:47 PM
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Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Official "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio
Track HITMAN.
Tag Team Coaching Success Story.
Happily distributing the red pills of CGNOMADDA. "if you take this pill, YOUR MIND WILL BE OPEN TO A WORLD NEW IDEAS."
Post by: NJStroker on June 05, 2008, 02:50:52 PM
quote:Yes i was able too. I was just hoping i was making the right prediction that what you were talking about was in fack the Rising.
Well I just hope he is able to figure out by my profile that the thing listed as #4 is a Rising.
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Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Official "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio
Track HITMAN.
Tag Team Coaching Success Story.
Happily distributing the red pills of CGNOMADDA. "if you take this pill, YOUR MIND WILL BE OPEN TO A WORLD NEW IDEAS."
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to thinking that if they buy a new ball they will carry everything. And its even funnier when im carrying with my 15 year old ball and they're going flat ten.