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averagebowler

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UpRising
« on: October 27, 2008, 03:55:14 PM »
Hey guys. I bought the UpRising but i had it drilled the #2 on the drill sheet. I'm just curious has any of you had it drilled it this way and change the cover stock to either making it dull or shined it up more.

 

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Re: UpRising
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2008, 11:49:11 AM »
I have not had one drilled #2 but as far as coverstock changes, it handles them well. It already is 4000 with factory polish OOB. If you wanted to shine it up more, you would have to use something like Extender and Delayed Reaction. Dulling it up to 1000 or 2000 will bring the breakpoint closer to you and smooth out the backend reaction.
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Re: UpRising
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2008, 11:53:57 AM »
louf846, that's what i was thinking of doing dulling it out but i wasn't sure if it will work out for me i did that with my TNV with pin above ring finger it didn't work out as i thought it would be. But i will try it out. Thanks

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Re: UpRising
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2008, 12:56:05 PM »
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louf846, that's what i was thinking of doing dulling it out but i wasn't sure if it will work out for me i did that with my TNV with pin above ring finger it didn't work out as i thought it would be. But i will try it out. Thanks



Well, don't dull the whole ball's surface.
Why not try this: take a 4000 grit Abralon pad, dampen thoroughly, then wipe the ball with it BY HAND (not with a spinner), removing gently and lightly about 1/2 the polish. Test it. See what the difference is and if it's enough. If not, do the rest of the ball with the spinner, LIGHTLY.
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Re: UpRising
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2008, 04:51:36 PM »
Its just a thought of what happen if i would. My friend said don't do it. I'm actually 50/50 on doing it. Well I'll try to see if i can take off a little of shine to it. If that doesn't work i'll just have it put back on its oob finish.

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Re: UpRising
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2008, 07:59:20 PM »
You can always bring it back up. As far as doing just half the ball, I would advise against that, especially in league. The surface of the ball must be uniform. You used to be able to dull portions of the ball. People would hit the back flares so you would get the benefit of polish on the portion the ball rolls over in the heads and get the benefit of control from the duller back flares. With the way the ball flares, dulling just half the ball would result in it rolling over polish and then dull and then polish and back to dull. 2000 with no polish is still a very smooth surface and would just even the reaction out. You can even go to 1000 or 2000 and then apply polish. This gives the coverstock some teeth underneath the polish so it will start hooking a touch sooner then 4000 with polish.
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Re: UpRising
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2008, 10:53:00 PM »
Here's a thought.
Bowl with it as is about 12 games.
If you don't like what you're seeing tell us and we will suggest surface changes.
This is a VERY good ball OTB and I will assume your driller chose the best drill pattern for your game.
Actually throw the ball and report back.
You may not need our help.
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Re: UpRising
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2008, 07:04:56 AM »
louf846, i'm 50/50 on whether or not i should change the coverstock. not half of the ball. i don't know if i should dull down or just leave it as shiny out of the box.  I'm going to bowl this THURSDAY i'll try to bring down to 1000 see how that works for me. THANKS GUYS!!!


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You can always bring it back up. As far as doing just half the ball, I would advise against that, especially in league. The surface of the ball must be uniform. You used to be able to dull portions of the ball. People would hit the back flares so you would get the benefit of polish on the portion the ball rolls over in the heads and get the benefit of control from the duller back flares. With the way the ball flares, dulling just half the ball would result in it rolling over polish and then dull and then polish and back to dull. 2000 with no polish is still a very smooth surface and would just even the reaction out. You can even go to 1000 or 2000 and then apply polish. This gives the coverstock some teeth underneath the polish so it will start hooking a touch sooner then 4000 with polish.
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Re: UpRising
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2008, 08:06:45 AM »
Have you even told us what it is doing to that you are not comfortable with that is making you want to change the coverstock. That would help.

I have this ball wqith the #2 drill and a modified #1 drill. Both balls are my favorite as we speak. On anything Actual medium and above, i can use either one of them, both being two different shapes. The #1 is hard ard with great continutaion, #2 is serious SKID FLIP for me, its recovery from deep angles is something I have not seen before out of any equipment that I have owned. It always seems to find the pocket, and carry.

Word to note, with either drill, MAKE SURE you have enough oil, it will let you know quickly, the ball is strong and a solid reactive, you will start pinging ten pins once the head oil and midlane is broken down a bit, especially if you play the track area.



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Re: UpRising
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2008, 09:38:53 AM »
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I have this ball wqith the #2 drill and a modified #1 drill. Both balls are my favorite as we speak. On anything Actual medium and above, i can use either one of them, both being two different shapes. The #1 is hard ard with great continutaion, #2 is serious SKID FLIP for me, its recovery from deep angles is something I have not seen before out of any equipment that I have owned. It always seems to find the pocket, and carry.

Word to note, with either drill, MAKE SURE you have enough oil, it will let you know quickly, the ball is strong and a solid reactive, you will start pinging ten pins once the head oil and midlane is broken down a bit, especially if you play the track area.


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I second that.
Sent you a detailed PM with suggestions.

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Re: UpRising
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2008, 02:50:27 PM »
well the ball doesn't hook as well as i thought on medium oil. when i throw it it just skids. But i assumed that if this ball is for medium to heavy it should have some aggresive move even though if this ball is drilled #2. it works well when the lane starts breaking down.

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Have you even told us what it is doing to that you are not comfortable with that is making you want to change the coverstock. That would help.

I have this ball wqith the #2 drill and a modified #1 drill. Both balls are my favorite as we speak. On anything Actual medium and above, i can use either one of them, both being two different shapes. The #1 is hard ard with great continutaion, #2 is serious SKID FLIP for me, its recovery from deep angles is something I have not seen before out of any equipment that I have owned. It always seems to find the pocket, and carry.

Word to note, with either drill, MAKE SURE you have enough oil, it will let you know quickly, the ball is strong and a solid reactive, you will start pinging ten pins once the head oil and midlane is broken down a bit, especially if you play the track area.



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Re: UpRising
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2008, 03:18:57 PM »
[/quote]well the ball doesn't hook as well as i thought on medium oil. when i throw it it just skids. But i assumed that if this ball is for medium to heavy it should have some aggresive move even though if this ball is drilled #2. it works well when the lane starts breaking down[/quote]


That could be from the pin distance being to far from your PAP if you track high, should have had you mention it in my previous post. If you had a PAP of 5 1/2 over that would make the pin distance probably 6+ from PAP. that would make for the ball having a pretty weak drill on it, along with the high finish and notorious layer of polish that most balls from the factory come with.

It could also be from the ball burning up on too little oil, but you said it starts doing well once the pattern breaks down some, which leads me to believe that the drilling is to weak for your release, or to much polish form the factory.. But a ball burning up in the midlane looks like it doesn't hook much sorta quits as it goes down the lane, not a rollout but just a mellow not want to finish hook, I experince that with some balls.

I thing I do these days with any ball that comes from the factory polished is take the ball to 4000 abralon or 2000 grit sandpapern and rioll it in that finsih first. the adjust the cover to fit what i want to see out of the ball. Juast a thought to consider, not everyone would want to do that or have access to do that, but I have been unhappy with alot of factory polished equipment. YThey work great for me once I polish them up my self, almost like a different ball altogether.
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