Author Topic: UpRising Coverstock Help!!!! (Read 2755 times)

dw23 · « **on:** August 21, 2008, 09:20:59 AM »

I have had trouble with my UpRising actually hooking too much in the backend. I love the reaction but it becomes hard to control with the ridiculously strong flip it has. My high track and early roll release just magnifies this characteristic.

Should I change the coverstock to 4000 (which tends to smooth out balls pretty good for me but it takes away some of the recovery from the inside angle) or should I sand the cover to 1000 and put factory finish on top of it?

Thank you for your suggestions,
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John D Davis · « **Reply #1 on:** August 21, 2008, 05:26:58 PM »

Why come on here and ask this? Just try both of your ideas and then tell us if it works,etc. It sounds like you have a plan for what you need so just go with it. If it doesnt work theres only like a hundred other surface cominations that might. John

dw23 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 21, 2008, 05:58:58 PM »

This question was for the people on here that I speak to often and the people that enjoy helping others. I am very aware of the fact that with my ball spinner and can make these changes quickly but I like to bounce ideas off of other educated bowlers. If that does not apply to you simply don't answer.
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charlest · « **Reply #3 on:** August 21, 2008, 06:18:02 PM »

I'd try the 4000 grit Abralon matte finish first. It should just make it slightly sooner and slightly calmer. Next option might be a very worn 2000 grit Abralon pad, so that the result is half way between 2000 and 4000 grit Abalon.

If it is hooking too much, maybe you should also wait until you find either slightly more oil or slightly longer oil. It could be that you're on too mild a house shot and it's giving you too much backend dry. If this will be your league shot, then either try suggestion #1 or save the UpRising for more oil.

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dw23 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 21, 2008, 06:45:02 PM »

Thanks Charlest,
I forgot to mention that it hits really bad and is very erratic when there is more oil. That's another reason I thought the 1000 with polish might help. A little earlier but hopefully will not lose energy.

I am leaning toward trying the 4000 first. I have two tournaments this weekend and I really need it to fall in behind my Rising when it hooks to early.
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charlest · « **Reply #5 on:** August 21, 2008, 06:54:01 PM »

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Thanks Charlest,
I forgot to mention that it hits really bad and is very erratic when there is more oil. That's another reason I thought the 1000 with polish might help. A little earlier but hopefully will not lose energy.

I am leaning toward trying the 4000 first. I have two tournaments this weekend and I really need it to fall in behind my Rising when it hooks to early.
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DW

All I can say is that 2 reviews (BTM and BJI) seemed to like it and I saw it last night on a slightly tough shot, on the next pair over. The guy had it hitting very hard, left 2 stinging 9 pins and only 2 of the rare messengers I had seen this nasty summer season so far at this one house.

Wonder if a bigger weight hole might also help??
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John D Davis · « **Reply #6 on:** August 21, 2008, 07:10:31 PM »

Also rememer you can put a weight hole in it if it doesn already have one that is. I tend to like balls better without them unless I am on a really fresh pattern and then I wouldnt mind having one in my hand.

Also give us a very detailed description of the layout along with that surface you tried to keep everyone informed. That is good that u have a spinner for each and everyone needs one.

I see the ball is already at 4000 so you may want to put a light coating of aceton on it to take the polish off. Some people dont like to use it and some do. It takes tha sheen off balls when Abralon is applied. I wasnt trying to be ugly with you, but being especially having a ball spinner just try alot of surfaces and then give us ur results... A bowler must be very open minded when it comes to this. John

Mark T. Trgovac · « **Reply #7 on:** August 22, 2008, 02:31:01 AM »

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Also rememer you can put a weight hole in it if it doesn already have one that is. I tend to like balls better without them unless I am on a really fresh pattern and then I wouldnt mind having one in my hand.

Also give us a very detailed description of the layout along with that surface you tried to keep everyone informed. That is good that u have a spinner for each and everyone needs one.

I see the ball is already at 4000 so you may want to put a light coating of aceton on it to take the polish off. Some people dont like to use it and some do. It takes tha sheen off balls when Abralon is applied. I wasnt trying to be ugly with you, but being especially having a ball spinner just try alot of surfaces and then give us ur results... A bowler must be very open minded when it comes to this. John

Um some people dont like to use aceton because it is completly banned by the usbc. The UpR comes 4000 abralon and is highly polished. It is not just 4000.

dw23,

I would try magic shine over FF. FF can tend to cause some over under problems, where magic shine will let you keep the normal ball motion you like and not change it to something that is completly different.
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dw23 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 22, 2008, 01:19:24 PM »

Thanks all.
Scoot, what is the difference between Magic Shine and Factory Finish? I thought they were the same consistency. I have both and being old school Track I would rather use MS but I thought I would keep it OOB finish first.
Thanks,
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williewc · « **Reply #9 on:** August 22, 2008, 03:25:30 PM »

check out the post about magic shine, its a few posts below this one, Scoot explained pretty good what magic shine will do to your ball reaction
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Mark T. Trgovac · « **Reply #10 on:** August 22, 2008, 08:37:08 PM »

Rob is right, any kind of quick drying cleaner was a bad combo on the Rising cover. Carl and I both had this problem with a cleaner, we both liked it alot but it killed reaction. His completly went away, and I soaked mine in powerwash for a month and got reaction back. No quick drying cleaners, most of all Aceton.
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NJStroker · « **Reply #11 on:** August 22, 2008, 11:09:51 PM »

scoot how is energizer???
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Mark T. Trgovac · « **Reply #12 on:** August 23, 2008, 01:35:55 AM »

It is ok, but not as good at clean n dull (IMHO), or power wash.
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dw23 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 20, 2008, 02:58:02 AM »

I changed the UpRising to 1000 Abralon w/Factory Finish Polish. The ball picks up a good 7 to 10 feet sooner and is very smooth in the backend. It still covers a lot of boards but now in a different not so violent manner. I will be able to use this ball on many conditions for a longer period of time.

I will report back after this weekends busy tournament schedule.
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DW

Scraps Z · « **Reply #14 on:** September 21, 2008, 09:14:19 AM »

When changing to UpR OOB to Magic Shine, what grit to you use to remove the FF then apply the MS? I was thinking 1k, 2k, 4k then MS...am I on the right "track" ?? Thanks

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