Post by: tenpinspro on August 23, 2006, 09:43:31 PM
Mean Machine - shot was dryer then normal, did the vids late after league. Oil line was about 12-13 for med balls and about 17 for the Mean. Normal length of oil is still 42ft blended. Between 5-10 was pretty good dry and blends in as you get deeper, you'll see.....enjoy and hope this helps some.
Mean Machine - 4 shots starting with a stroke, moving 5 boards left every shot
http://media.putfile.com/Mean-Machine-various
Very versatile....
Inertia - same thing....from stroke to more and more lift
http://media.putfile.com/Inertia
Nice length with the weak drill...
Machine - same thing....from stroke to more and more lift
http://media.putfile.com/Machine-various
All four balls - Mean, Inertia, Machine and Equation all thrown from the same line to show strengths.
http://media.putfile.com/MeanInertiaMachineEquation
Feel free to ask any questions....thanks.
On edit: I completely lost my head and forgot to give BIG PROPS and THANKS to nonamekevin again for doing the great camera work. He came by to say hi and got stuck working for me...AGAIN! Thanks Kevin...
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Edited on 8/24/2006 1:14 PM
Post by: Rev_O on August 24, 2006, 06:15:40 AM
Great vids bro!!
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Post by: BrooklynSlop on August 24, 2006, 06:32:32 AM
Thanks for the comparisons here.Boy, I tell ya... The Machine and the Mean Machine just look really really good. Every time I see one, it makes me want them more and more, LOL!
They just look like they will fit my game so well!
Makes me have G.A.S.... Gear Acquisition Syndrome. I don't need more balls!!!
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Post by: Re-Evolution on August 24, 2006, 06:48:20 AM
For those of you that either have issues with putfile or would just like to download them here are direct links to the files.
Mean Machine
http://uploadfile.putfile.com/videos/23505424643.wmv
Machine
http://uploadfile.putfile.com/videos/23505382968.wmv
Inertia
http://uploadfile.putfile.com/videos/23505354246.wmv
Mean, Inertia, Machine and Equation
http://uploadfile.putfile.com/videos/23505473679.wmv
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Post by: Djarum on August 24, 2006, 08:22:36 AM
How much stronger would the inertia be with a stronger drill, ie MB @ 45 degrees. It looks to me with the drilling on the inertia you have, it has the same amount of hook as the equation, the equation just goes longer, and the inertia starts rolling sooner.
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Post by: Ramtart on August 24, 2006, 10:04:36 AM
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Rick thanks for the nice vids.
How much stronger would the inertia be with a stronger drill, ie MB @ 45 degrees. It looks to me with the drilling on the inertia you have, it has the same amount of hook as the equation, the equation just goes longer, and the inertia starts rolling sooner.
Dj
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Like Dj says above, I also thought the same thing. An Inertia drilled with a stronger MB placement would be pretty scary. BTW, did you hit the Inertia with Polish? What is the surface OOB? I know it uses the Peak Particle coverstock right?
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Post by: pnj1967 on August 24, 2006, 10:10:52 AM
Hopefully the Equation is down the road some where.
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Post by: CG_Matters on August 24, 2006, 12:53:37 PM
I knew there had to be something little people were good at.
Again Rick...great vids, bud! Keep em coming!
Post by: tenpinspro on August 24, 2006, 01:53:13 PM
DJ/Ram, good question. I'll probably have to get another one and find out. I matched it up to my length drilled Machine, my other Machine is drilled at stack lev so I chose the weaker one to use to compare to the weaker drill of the Inertia. The ball comes polished over Power Peak Particle. Not sure of the grit underneath, maybe one of the other staffers can chime in. Haven't talked to Del about this ball yet.
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do you regret that drill on the Inertia?
Regret having a piece of Track equipment in my hands?? NEVER...
How could the thought even cross your mind??..lol Actually guys, it's a great match up for me being that I'm slightly rev dominant. I've already started plugging 2 more of my asyms to redrill. My comfort zone now is more down and in vs circling the lane, not young anymore..
I grew up on lacquer so track and deep track is my forte. Never was a good wall shooter and still am not.quote:
Nice vids, Prez! Just when I thought I had my arsenal all set up, you go and post vids on new balls! Dammit! Now I hear the Mean and Equation calling me!
Sorry K, our current line does look very good. You can try my Mean and Equation next time you come by.
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Post by: CG_Matters on August 24, 2006, 02:07:08 PM
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Post by: SteveAustin2808 on August 25, 2006, 02:46:06 AM
Great vids dude!
First and foremost, if any of you haven't heard me state in my other threads here recently...I would just like to state a comment about the Equation! WOW! What a great ball! I absolutely love this one, it is just completely sick guys! Until you've thrown one, you have no idea what you are missing!
Okay, I'm done! Back to Ricky's vids...
Rick I got one question...when you were playing really deep with all four, I noticed the Inertia roll out and the Equation actually make it back to the pocket alittle bit to leave the bucket...
What are your thoughts on how the Inertia and Equation are the same and different? Thanks! God Bless You All and have a great week!
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Post by: tenpinspro on August 25, 2006, 10:42:18 AM
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Rick I got one question...when you were playing really deep with all four, I noticed the Inertia roll out and the Equation actually make it back to the pocket alittle bit to leave the bucket...
Mike,
You bring up a good point but this is where having the "eye" comes in. In actuality, the Inertia does not roll out, it "never" rolls up. Definition of roll out is where a ball actually turns over and the weight block reaches its PSA (preferred spin axis) before hitting the pins. In this case, the Inertia never reaches it's PSA, it's far from it, it's still skidding.
There is a difference but it can take some time for one to learn to see this. The Equation might have sniffed a dry spot and reacted some off that but particle will not, they roll much smoother.
This goes back to the long thread about particle vs resin/reactive and understanding that particle can grab sooner but it does not react off friction like reactives do.
Take a look at my Inertia video lesson and you'll see that it takes the Inertia to encounter some friction (right of 10 board) to turn over and finish so keeping it in all the oil at 4th arrow does not allow it to turn over at all.
I can easily tell that the Inertia is stronger compared to the Equation. It is only my weaker drill (and the shot) that makes them appear somewhat similar.
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Edited on 8/25/2006 3:41 PM
Post by: tenpinspro on August 27, 2006, 01:08:40 PM
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Post by: Noy on August 28, 2006, 05:17:29 PM
As you know, I already have an Equation which I'm starting to fall in love with. Its great for my down and in shot. If my Radical, which I'm drilling today, doesnt work out, I'm gonna try and look for a Machine to trade it with. Track is really starting to spark things up. Cant wait to see PA throw it on TV.
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Post by: tenpinspro on August 29, 2006, 03:04:25 AM
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Would you say that the Mean Machine and Machine are proportionate to the Intertia and Equation?
Hey Noy,
That's not a bad comparison. The Machine would be a better compliment to the Equation vs the Radical. I've drilled a few Rads and it is also a pretty long ball with backend. It may be a little close to the Equation and not offer you a whole lot of separation between the two. Keep us posted...
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Post by: Noy on August 29, 2006, 09:50:51 AM
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Would you say that the Mean Machine and Machine are proportionate to the Intertia and Equation?
Hey Noy,
That's not a bad comparison. The Machine would be a better compliment to the Equation vs the Radical. I've drilled a few Rads and it is also a pretty long ball with backend. It may be a little close to the Equation and not offer you a whole lot of separation between the two. Keep us posted...
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Haha, well I think i found that out last night when I punched up my Radical. My Equation and Radical looked exactly the same. Same breakpoint, same board coverage, etc. You can read my post in the Brunswick Forum. Maybe Track equipment just fits me best. I'm debating on drilling up my Pain or looking for someone to trade a NIB Machine for it. You got any left over that you'd like to trade Tenpins?
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Arsenal:
Action Max
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Undrilled:
Radical Inferno
Hammer Raw Pain
(Which of these should I put in between my Max and Equation?!?!)
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http://turkeyadobo.multiply.com