Post by: SteveAustin2808 on February 24, 2007, 03:09:24 PM
This is my starting petition to Ebonite, if you want to see the PHOENIX put into production, then let Ebonite know how you feel by replying...with enough usernames they should hear what we have to say! I tried this once and was told how ridiculous it was for posting it at the time. I will NOT take it off no matter how many people give me grief over it...for those who haven't had a chance to throw it, I feel we deserve a shot at it! God Bless You All and have a great week!
--Michael--
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Post by: PurplePeopleEater on February 24, 2007, 11:17:42 PM
Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on February 24, 2007, 11:30:12 PM
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Post by: Re-Evolution on February 24, 2007, 11:42:08 PM
From what I here all current balls will be gone once the stock is used up which I find to be even more ridiculous. Those of us that like Track liked it for a reason and they shouldn't mess with what makes Track what it is.
If I wanted a ball that Big E thinks is how it should be I would buy one of their releases.
11 ball arsenal 10 Track and a white dot I think I found the company that I like, unfortunately this may change.
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Post by: KCarter069 on February 25, 2007, 12:44:57 AM
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Post by: tekneek on February 25, 2007, 01:27:48 AM
Sorry for your grief, but there are always others who suffer more in different terms.I hope your petition works, it sounds like many of the Ebonite decisions have been made, just not put in print as of yet. I'm out....
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Post by: Re-Evolution on February 25, 2007, 02:30:55 AM
I heard the same thing about the multi-density cores. I hope this is not true cause many of the best releases from Track and others have been multi density.
A few off of the top of my head.
Track: Robo core, Equation, Heat (Tri-Density)
Columbia: Cerami-cores
Storm: Trama Series, RAD cores, PBT/PMT/Thunder cores
Roto: Rotary, Cyclotron, X-1
Lane #1's mini nugget cores
There are many others.
With Big E being the controller of so many companies I think their philosophy of multi density cores could be a BAD thing.
Sorry for the hi-jack Michael.
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Post by: Bowl4Bacon on February 25, 2007, 03:32:21 AM
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Post by: pnj1967 on February 25, 2007, 04:27:10 AM
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Post by: Lancer4Life on February 25, 2007, 04:43:59 AM
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Post by: pianoman1226 on February 25, 2007, 05:21:28 AM
MARK D.
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Post by: 2fingers on February 25, 2007, 07:04:41 AM
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Post by: pjr300 on February 25, 2007, 07:39:40 AM
The Track brand provided unique product, even while a division under Columbia. It does not need to become balls labeled Track that is nothing but varients of warmed-over Ebonite lines with different colors and names.
If they destroy the brand equity and its following (not just Track but Columbia too), then the entire Columbia purchase will be a disaster for Ebonite too... could kill them financially.
So heed the warning... give us the Phoenix!
edited for typos.
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Edited on 2/25/2007 8:53 AM
Post by: Stan on February 25, 2007, 07:45:29 AM
Post by: directdrill on February 25, 2007, 07:58:34 AM
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Hook 'em Horns!
Post by: pjr300 on February 25, 2007, 08:17:45 AM
This is the type of stuff that happens when the cost accountants gets involved... not making the ball because the multi-density core is too time consuming. Make the damn ball!
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Post by: cnimsk on February 25, 2007, 08:20:07 AM
Chuck
Post by: Rev_O on February 25, 2007, 08:22:12 AM
Dear Ebonite International, Inc. Consumer Product Distributor:
One of the many issues caught in the Columbia transition was the Track Phoenix ball introduction. When asked, we told many of you that we would be testing that ball before making a "go/no-go" decision regarding it's release. Testing has now been completed. We will not be releasing this ball.
Please cancel any orders that you may have placed for the Track Phoenix.
There have also been some questions regarding the new Columbia "Ten" ball that was pending introduction. This ball will not be released.
Please pass this information on to your pro shop customers as you deem appropriate.
Sorry for the abruptness of these announcements, but we felt it very important that we keep you as informed as possible.
CHEERS!
RWR
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Rev-O
Post by: earmite26 on February 25, 2007, 08:27:52 AM
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VOTE FOR PEDRO
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Post by: mainzer on February 25, 2007, 12:03:06 PM
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Mainzerpower
Post by: REVerse on February 25, 2007, 12:18:33 PM
Regards
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Post by: bowlingmaniac017 on February 25, 2007, 12:20:25 PM
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Mike
Post by: charlest on February 25, 2007, 04:15:54 PM
quote:quote:
And you think you have it bad, what about the staffers we had, what are they going to do???? If this is true all their existing equipment may not be leagal to use in the upcoming PBA season at the regional level, if that is the case they'll all be scrambling to get new equipment drilled in the next couple weeks before the season opens for them, and all without contracts to help off set the financial drain on their personal finances.
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Once a ball is approved by the PBA it is approved! Just because Ebonite decides they don't want to do multi density cores for the future doesn't effect the balls that have them already. They are still legal.
If Ebonite decides to do this then whats the point of keeping Track? Track is known for these type of cores and if your not going to stay loyal to the brand name then thats stupid.
I want the PHOENIX! Release it.
Adam
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Adam,
While it's true for the ABC/USBC, it is not true, as far as I know, for the PBA. The manufacturer has to pay a yearly fee to the PBA to have their porducts approved. If the company no longer exists, how can it pay the fee?
That happened to the Hammer balls made by Faball, during the interim when Ebonite purchased the Hammer names. For many months Faball Hammer balls like the Truck and the Wheel could not be used. Ebonite had to pay the fee for bowlers to use them in PBA events.
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Post by: FastTracker33 on February 25, 2007, 06:22:34 PM
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Track Legion
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Post by: FastTracker33 on February 25, 2007, 06:31:09 PM
quote:quote:
Subject: TRACK PHOENIX BALL RELEASE
Dear Ebonite International, Inc. Consumer Product Distributor:
One of the many issues caught in the Columbia transition was the Track Phoenix ball introduction. When asked, we told many of you that we would be testing that ball before making a "go/no-go" decision regarding it's release. Testing has now been completed. We will not be releasing this ball.
Please cancel any orders that you may have placed for the Track Phoenix.
There have also been some questions regarding the new Columbia "Ten" ball that was pending introduction. This ball will not be released.
Please pass this information on to your pro shop customers as you deem appropriate.
Sorry for the abruptness of these announcements, but we felt it very important that we keep you as informed as possible.
CHEERS!
RWR
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Rev-O
Not to start anything... but maybe there's a reason it didn't pass Ebonite's testing?
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That's what my proshop guy told me. But i was thinking, maybe the Phoenix doesn't die as fast? NOT trying to start anything!
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Track Legion
Inertia, EQuation , DEsert HeAt
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"Track...you Just can't Beat That!"
Post by: BrunsMike on February 25, 2007, 06:39:22 PM
Im not a Track fan like many are but I was very interested in this ball, Looked promising!
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Post by: RDS on February 25, 2007, 08:56:19 PM
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Power Machine
Strike Machine
Machine
Arsenal Artillary
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Post by: trogdor on February 26, 2007, 05:57:06 AM
Think that would make a nice first ball name.--------------------
Track Power Machine
Storm Paradigm Passion
Storm Eraser Ragin' Banshee
Lane#1 Crystal Diamond
Post by: Djarum on February 26, 2007, 07:32:21 AM
Dj
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Post by: Grayson on February 26, 2007, 07:44:32 AM
Let the pheonix rise!
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