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dw23

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What do you think about arsenal suggestions from Track staffers?
« on: November 15, 2005, 09:29:11 AM »
I think there should be a page on the Track website where the Pro and Amateur staffers describe what balls they use on a particular condition along with the layout. They should update it as there ideas change or a new ball is released that may take the place of something they currently use. This may help most bowlers that can identify with a particular staffers style to determine which new ball to buy and how to lay it out.

Just a thought.
DW
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Re: What do you think about arsenal suggestions from Track staffers?
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2005, 08:33:25 AM »
Jeff & Rick, great points there.

Jeff, you bring up points that Rick taught me during a couple of times we practiced. Both of you guys mention giving yourself the "most area to miss."
During shadow ball I was taught to not just find the "perfect line to the pocket," but find how much room I have for mistake.

-Will I hit the pocket if I play deeper than my desired strike line. (also to see if you have tug/pull mistake area)
-Will I hit the pocket if I get the ball outside of my strike line. (Sending the ball wider than its' usual path)

This is what Rick is talking about in regards to "area/break point" down lane. Find that area downlane (a.k.a Break Point) and see how much of the lane you can use to attack it.

Jeff also talks about is "Confidence." I truly believe that this is a crucial part of this process. He states, "never lose conviction of what you're doing."
This is so true. There has been 10 weeks of league so far in the Winter and during weeks 5-8 I struggled, because I didn't believe in my game and got down on myself. It's all about accepting and learning from mistakes and improving!

Thanks guys, you're always a great help!
Ramilli Vanilli
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Edited on 11/17/2005 9:25 AM

chitown

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Re: What do you think about arsenal suggestions from Track staffers?
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2005, 09:07:10 AM »
Now this is what I like to read.  Lane play.  This will really help my game.  This gives me something to look for on my Sunday league.  Thanks guys keep it coming.

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Re: What do you think about arsenal suggestions from Track staffers?
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2005, 10:19:17 AM »
As fas as this "break area" is concerned, how do you look for it during practice?
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Re: What do you think about arsenal suggestions from Track staffers?
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2005, 10:58:42 AM »
Hey Buckwild...

"Break Area or Break Point" is the area on the lane where your ball starts to move when encountering friction. Throw your ball several times down the lane. Concentrate on where the ball is making a "change of direction. (i.e. encountering drier boards)"

A good idea is to watch other bowlers that have the same style as you and watch where their ball is "changing direction." After doing this, try it after you roll the ball. Watch the path of the ball. Your breakpoint could be like 3/4 of the way down the lane when it starts to make its' turn or it could be earlier.

The break point or break area is also referred to as "The Spot or The Spot Downlane." You might hear Randy Pederson saying that on the telecasts on Sundays.

Check out Rick's (tenpinspro) observation from the 1st PBA telecast of the season in regards to "break spot and/or break area". If you have it taped, check it out!

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Just to help substantiate what you just mentioned, I just watched the PBA show from 2 weeks ago where Tommy Jones was bowling against Wes Malott. They were both going out to the 1-2 board at the break "area" (my new term) and on one shot TJ tugged one to where it only got out to about 5-6 and it still held and smashed the pocket. He missed it by about 4 boards and still struck...area, guys...it's all about creating area. I also now personally use the a new term vs "break point" in the shop and during coaching, I call it the "break area" because the ball can and will hook from an "area" downlane. Our job is to find the center of that "break area" and then we'll be lined up to have some miss room.


Hope this helps!
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Edited on 11/17/2005 11:57 AM

dw23

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Re: What do you think about arsenal suggestions from Track staffers?
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2005, 01:02:53 PM »
O-Zones warning on watching the pros and assuming the ball will work for you on that particular pattern is dead on. There's always going to be someone that thinks they throw the ball just like Chris Barnes and use every ball and drill pattern he uses but we can't stop that. I still think that most could learn a lot from observing what the pros have success with on sport patterns. They do get the best coaching, drilling instructions and access to unlimited equipment choices.

I think the most important thing is knowing what covers seem to work for them on sport patterns. The drill patterns and the cores are more relative to the bowlers style but I think covers spread over a wider range of styles. Knowing that Paul Fleming uses a Arsenal Aggressive with the out of box cover on the Scorpion pattern would give me a starting point for researching what cover may work for me on that pattern because his style and ball speed is similar to mine. His drill pattern and/or that exact ball may not carry well for me but with little tweaks an experienced ball driller could modify it to fit my style on the surface that I will be competing on.

This may not work for the novice but I think the average tournament bowler would get a lot out of this information and may even save them money in the long run.

Hope that all make sense,
DW


Edited on 11/17/2005 1:57 PM
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