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Equipment Boards => Track => Topic started by: gokenong on June 12, 2008, 03:34:07 PM

Title: what?
Post by: gokenong on June 12, 2008, 03:34:07 PM
hi guys, would like to ask info as to what ball from track is currently suited for heavy oil?
Title: Re: what?
Post by: gokenong on June 13, 2008, 12:41:09 AM
how about the kinetic energy?? how would it compare??
Title: Re: what?
Post by: gokenong on June 13, 2008, 02:12:09 AM
oh.. ok.. tnx for the help..
Title: Re: what?
Post by: newskoolrighty on June 13, 2008, 07:59:56 AM
Holding Track back??!! With the current arsenal Track has out, how are they being held back.  Between the Kinetic, Kinetic Energy, and the Temper you have 3 balls that give you different lengths and backends.  And then the Rising, which you can drill various ways in order to go from strong midlane and ton of hook to very smooth.  And now this summer Track will have three more coming out starting on Tuesday with the Tantrum (which I am stoked about the Tantrum).  So how in any way is Track being "held back". They are coming out with the must up to date covers and cores. Ebonite has done a great job of letting each company kind of do their own thing since they each have their own Brand Manager. I, personally, would not say that Track is being held back.  Just my 2 cents.
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Title: Re: what?
Post by: Guined on June 13, 2008, 11:16:19 AM
Track Being Held Back?? I don't think so.

I would say Track is leading the way with core/cover technology. Plus some very cool marketing. Fig is the man!!

We are definately leading the industry.

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Title: Re: what?
Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on June 13, 2008, 06:23:59 PM
I love the robo rule. However for every ounce of me that loved the robo rule. The rising is my go to ball. I don't care what the condition is. The rising is stronger on the back then the robo and even with the robo being particle it won't roll as fast as the rising. I have yet to roll a solid reactive ball that rolled as fast and still turned on the back. Now the only thing I would like to see is a rising with particles added to the HP Generation 1 cover. Heck and because it would be the first particle in almost 2 years from the ebonite plant it could be called the rising tide.

I also would not be shocked to see some particle stuff come back. With the usbc making there limits to how pores a cover can be. This brings a need for particles as the new oils come out.
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Title: Re: what?
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on June 13, 2008, 06:38:19 PM
Until the Uprising comes out, definitely the Rising and Kinetic Energy for the Heavy oil.  I actually prefer the Kinetic Energy over the Rising due to the K.E. being much stronger midlane.


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Title: Re: what?
Post by: gokenong on June 15, 2008, 10:35:24 PM
would it be good if sed in shark or long/heavy oil pattern?? although this is a track forum, I would just like to ask a comparison between the resurgence and the kinetic energy?? tnx!
Title: Re: what?
Post by: SVstar34 on June 16, 2008, 12:27:19 AM
quote:
would it be good if sed in shark or long/heavy oil pattern?? although this is a track forum, I would just like to ask a comparison between the resurgence and the kinetic energy?? tnx!


Those balls dont compare.
Resurgence has one of the strongest, more able to handle oil covers. The "One" true heavy oil ball out of all of Ebonite's pours is Resurgence

K.E. gets great length and has the same crazy backend as the original Kinetic, but starts a little earlier than original

K.E. will be longer than Resurgence
Resurgence will hook more and recover more in oil
K.E. might be a good choice for a broken down shark, but not if its fresh...pending on your speed and rev rate
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Title: Re: what?
Post by: Xfest on June 16, 2008, 01:00:39 AM
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Track Being Held Back?? I don't think so.

I would say Track is leading the way with core/cover technology. Plus some very cool marketing. Fig is the man!!

We are definately leading the industry.

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When you are selling as much as Ebonite and Hammer, then you just may be leading the industry. Maybe around 10 years from now? If bowling is still alive?
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Title: Re: what?
Post by: gokenong on June 16, 2008, 02:26:29 AM
oh.. ok.. tnx guys!
Title: Re: what?
Post by: Guined on June 16, 2008, 10:01:35 AM
X.E.

I'm talking Technology. But I'm positive we are going to see some great sales numbers this year with the new releases.
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Title: Re: what?
Post by: gokenong on June 19, 2008, 10:05:00 AM
has anyone changed the surface of the kinetic energy?? like sanding it and making it dull?
Title: Re: what?
Post by: louf846 on June 19, 2008, 10:20:23 AM
I keep one at 1000. It is a pin down, 4.5 from pap, 45 degree mass bias, extra hole. It is very smooth but it really didn't make the ball hook a ton. It just smoothed out the shape and it is a very good ball now for strong backends or wet/dry. It certainly changed the shape but overall hook, maybe 1-2 boards, if anything at all.
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Title: Re: what?
Post by: gokenong on June 19, 2008, 08:32:51 PM
well, heres the fact.. I just got it drilled the other day.. I used yesterday on a heavy oil flat pattern.. It just skidded and didn't get to the pocket.. so, I'm thinking about scuffing it with an abralon 500..would this work?? or is the ball not really suited for use in heavy oil?
Title: Re: what?
Post by: NJStroker on June 19, 2008, 09:37:44 PM
DUDE WE ALREADY TOLD U A THOUSAND TIMES ITS NOT FOR HEAVY OIL NO MATTER WHAT ITS AT EXCEPT FOR MAYBE 320 U SHOULD'VE LISTENED AND GOT THE RISING BUT IT SEEMS U WERE SET ON THE KE NO MATTER WHAT WE TOLD U.
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to thinking that if they buy a new ball they will carry everything. And its even funnier when im carrying with my 15 year old ball and they're going flat ten.
Title: Re: what?
Post by: gokenong on June 19, 2008, 11:52:31 PM
nop.. actually, the ball was only giveb to me.. so, I might as well drill and use it...
Title: Re: what?
Post by: louf846 on June 20, 2008, 07:11:36 AM
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DUDE WE ALREADY TOLD U A THOUSAND TIMES ITS NOT FOR HEAVY OIL NO MATTER WHAT ITS AT EXCEPT FOR MAYBE 320 U SHOULD'VE LISTENED AND GOT THE RISING BUT IT SEEMS U WERE SET ON THE KE NO MATTER WHAT WE TOLD U.
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Im so glad people are brainwashed to thinking that if they buy a new ball they will carry everything. And its even funnier when im carrying with my 15 year old ball and they're going flat ten.


You need to relax. I don't think this was called for.
I wouldn't take the ball down much further than 1000 unless you do 500 by hand really lightly. Too much pressure and you can put lines in the ball. I learned the hard way when I got my spinner. LOL
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Title: Re: what?
Post by: Weaser on June 20, 2008, 09:49:30 AM
The KE is an excellent oil side of medium selection even at OOB. A slight scuffing (1000 as Lou stated) will increase the oil capability, but that is what the Rising is for. I have my Rising at 1000A & KE OOB. Am awaiting the Uprising to determine if it will be above or below the KE so I can select the correct surface for the KE since I will prob leave the UR OOB @ 4000 polish. My 2 cents.....
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Title: Re: what?
Post by: gokenong on June 20, 2008, 09:02:14 PM
ok.. tnx guys...well I was actually thinking about scuffing it with abralon 500 by hand and not by sanding it with a spinner...well, I'll just try it out.. wen would the Uprising be coming out??
Title: Re: what?
Post by: Weaser on June 20, 2008, 09:44:46 PM
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Title: Re: what?
Post by: SVstar34 on June 20, 2008, 09:47:20 PM
Uprising is not going to be a heavy oil suited ball. It is a polished ball that is supposed to be able to be used on a wider variety of conditions
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Title: Re: what?
Post by: louf846 on June 21, 2008, 02:11:20 PM
I am sure the UpRising will take well to surface changes but if you going to pruchase a new ball to be condition specific, it is better to go with the best match versus the newest ball. The Rising is the best match for heavy oil.
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