Author Topic: Artillery vs Inertia (Read 1027 times)

Djarum · « **on:** September 08, 2006, 03:05:54 AM »

I've seen several comparisons to how smooth the Inertia is to the Equation. What about the artillary. From a previous post, it seems that the Artillary is stronger than the Inertia. I find this hard to believe, but I'd like for you guys who really know chime in.

Dj
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tenpinspro · « **Reply #1 on:** September 08, 2006, 11:39:41 AM »

Hey DJ,

Here's my explanation, it stems back to how much skid or conserved energy a ball can store before it's released.

For me, the Artillery by nature skids better, therefore it can conserve more energy which will be released at the backend vs the Inertia which being particle, grabs sooner throughout the lane and won't jump or finish as hard.

Dependent upon the shot, any ball that conserves or stores more energy "and" is released becomes the stronger moving ball in the backend.

I will have to revert back to my all season tire and snow tire analogy where an all season tire which will spin up in snow (stored energy), hits dry road and fishtails vs a snowtire which will gradually "roll" thru that same amount of snow. Which one has more physical movement when it encounters friction? It is the ball that spins up and stores energy. Unless the lane is flooded with very little dry, any ball that can store or conserve energy will make a stronger move once it encounters friction.

Do we consider a snowtire to be stronger or be able to create more friction then an all season tire?....yes. However, in movement in regards to a bowling ball, we are deceived by this movement as strength. Hope his helps explain some....
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mrbowlingnut · « **Reply #2 on:** September 08, 2006, 11:47:44 AM »

Polished goo ls and revmaster core = big backend reaction, slightly less oil handling but not much than the Inertia. Totally two different ball reaction shapes for me, one even and rolly the Inertia an one revs up very hard in midlane and backends like a bat out of he11.

Djarum · « **Reply #3 on:** September 08, 2006, 01:58:56 PM »

When I mean stronger, I mean most boards covered, not necessarily backend. But you have answered my question. Seems as if the as far as smoothness, it goes Inertia, Artillery, Equation from most to least smoothness.

Dj
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tenpinspro · « **Reply #4 on:** September 08, 2006, 02:17:08 PM »

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When I mean stronger, I mean most boards covered

Yes and no...a stronger coverstock will grab sooner therefore covering "less" boards. On a THS I can throw plastic from 23 to 5 and back to the pocket (on 17th board) which equates to an incredible amount of 30 boards. Does this mean plastic is stronger thean particle? ....no.

When we change to snow tires on our car, we don't want to skid 40ft and then grab the road, we want it to grab right now and immediately in front of us. This is the confusion that exists from bowler to bowler....great discussion bud.
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Djarum · « **Reply #5 on:** September 11, 2006, 03:13:24 PM »

Rick,

I still think the same applys, as far as most boards covered. If I take plastic, and throw it from 25 to 5, for me, it would never come back. Basically, what I mean, is if you have two balls, and both are thrown at the exact same mark, which one is going to finish at the deck "higher" than the other. Early hook can equate to more boards covered, just depending on the conditions. If its oily enough, it will move. If I take a highly polished weak reactive, it will never move(or recover enough) in that same amount of oil. Some stronger balls will burn up and hook less on dryer conditions which is true, but I am comparing it a high volume of oil. I realize that some balls will hook more in dryer conditions and some hook more in oiler condition.

So what I am asking: Take a high volume of oil, take the artillary and Inertia, throw them on the same shot, which one will have more motion?

Dj
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tenpinspro · « **Reply #6 on:** September 12, 2006, 07:04:35 AM »

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So what I am asking: Take a high volume of oil, take the artillary and Inertia, throw them on the same shot, which one will have more motion?

Dj

On the higher volume, our Inertia should still be able to turn more. It is only on heavier conditions that we can see true ball strengths or the amount of friction they are intended to create.

Not until we hit complete snow on the road can we see the differences between our all season tire vs snow tire. Snow tire should grab and all season tire should slide, same theory applies....

I was just trying to explain the original question of

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From a previous post, it seems that the Artillary is stronger than the Inertia.

This is why I personally like vids on balls. It's tough sometimes to decipher what an individual puts in black and white without knowing the true condition he/she is bowling on. Hope this helps bud...

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SteveAustin2808 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 12, 2006, 07:14:45 AM »

Hey Rick,

It looks like I've got another comparison/contrast vid mission to complete...huh?

God Bless You All and have a great week!

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Djarum · « **Reply #8 on:** September 12, 2006, 09:03:59 AM »

Michael,

Have you picked up an intertia yet? Over here at plamor they have a really sick shot out. A ton of oil up front, with screamin backends. I'm having a hard time keeping my fired up right of the head pin. It seems my freak doesn't react as violently, but I can't keep it on the lane for all 3 games. I may need to pick up a really weak piece of equipment. I'm not sure how everyone else is keeping their SR 300 and Ones on the lane.

Dj
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SteveAustin2808 · « **Reply #9 on:** September 12, 2006, 10:19:19 AM »

Hey DJ,

Haven't had a chance to pick it up yet but it is coming very soon! I gotta get that MO sent to Clint ASAP! God Bless You and have a great week!

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