Author Topic: Which track ball? (Read 2816 times)

btx · « **on:** June 20, 2004, 08:51:34 AM »

Which track ball do u consider its best skid and flip ball. Something clean on
the heads even if there is no head oil and has enough energy to turn and still continue on the pins even if played deep. thanks

loose5682 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 21, 2004, 12:14:31 AM »

Bear in mind that nothing will be clean through the heads if there is no head oil and will have enough energy to continue through the pins...lane conditions make that nearly impossible (unless i'm missing something)...

That being said...

I agree, your best choice is the Crash, from what i've seen. Though i've not seen the Dry Heat in action so I don't know how well this ball is in the matter of skid/flippiness.

Rick, EX, Chapman, any comments?
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btx · « **Reply #2 on:** June 21, 2004, 12:24:29 AM »

Sorry, what i meant was something i can use when my money hooks of my feet. I know i have to chase oil but i dont seem to get flip and carry i need when swinging my money from deep. I have my hammer superflip for this but it gets over and under for me and thinking of replacing it. Note: I still want something controllable just something that goes long and flips or arcs continuosly at backends. thanks

TWOHAND834 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 21, 2004, 12:29:03 AM »

Andrew and others,

I have a Dry Heat with the pin above the bridge and cg in the center of grip. I do have a high track as the track starts at the left edge of my middle finger. I must say that mine was VERY skid/flippy until I altered the surface a little. I use a grey scotchbrite and go over it with Clean and Sheen. It took some of the flippiness out of the ball. But, it still has a pretty defined move. I agree with Andrew 100% that nothing gets through the heads clean when they are burnt. The best form of "push" on burnt heads is lofting the ball. If you sert the ball down rather early on burnt heads, if the balls gets through, the ball will lose so much energy there will be nothing left for the backend. Granted, I have a 500+ rev rate. But, my bowling center only lays down 32 feet of oil in the evenings, and I have to use the Dry Heat, with a label drilling, to play laying the ball down around 30, hitting around 20 at the arrows, and using about 7 as the breakpoint just to stay right of the headpin. Like I said, though, the breakpoint is pretty defined. If you are a person with high rev rate and average to better than average ball speed (18+ mph), you should have no problem with recovery on the backend providing you are on a drier condition.
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C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #4 on:** June 21, 2004, 02:05:42 AM »

I think that Track has a couple of good skid/flip balls.

When I think skid/flip I think length.....but with a very strong finishing move.

CrunchTime.....and Crash. Both of these get excellent length and have tremendous recover....but they give a different look. The Crunch Time is a little sooner, but it still offers a good skid/flip reaction---------and will handle carrydown better than the Crash. The Crash and the CrunchTime are very strong at the pins, man they send the pins flying in every directions.

Tracks rates the Crash slightly stronger than the CrunchTime, but I see it in the reverse.
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tenpinspro · « **Reply #5 on:** June 21, 2004, 11:53:28 AM »

Hey BTX,

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Note: I still want something controllable just something that goes long and flips or arcs continuosly at backends. thanks

If you're getting O/U already, I wouldn't recommend length and flip on the backend. Maybe try a Havoc with mb left of thumb for controlled arc or a litely polished Unleashed with a controlled pattern will fit nicely under the Money. Remember, the Money does want to roll early so that's why you're not getting the backend motion you're looking for. Feel free to pm me if you want help on a layout, thanks.
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btx · « **Reply #6 on:** June 21, 2004, 08:36:16 PM »

Hi Ric,

Isnt the Havoc an early rolling ball by its nature too? I wanted something with good lenght and strong backend but still has control. Something clean upfront and I am leaning at pearl reactives or reactives with good lenght and away from particle (too addicted to them). I had success with some pearl reactives like columbia beast and spirit but i retired both of them already and my superflip is just hard too predict not to mention the carry. PS im slowly converting to my arsenal to track shhhh......thanks

loose5682 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 21, 2004, 08:46:44 PM »

BTX, first of all, welcome to the "darkside" (ok, i know, terrible Track joke...)

Second, while Track bills it as a Strong Arc, it is still also billed for "light to medium oil" meaning it's not a strong Morpheus particle ball. The simple fact that this ball has an MB makes it rather versatile in my eyes. And it being a reactive ball will help as well. Like Rick said, MB left of thumb, maybe even a dab of polish if you need extra length, and you'll be all set to go.
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Strider · « **Reply #8 on:** June 22, 2004, 01:55:42 AM »

I know it's not Track, but you really should consider the Roto Grip Silver Streak Pearl. If you like strong pearls with lots of backend, you'll love it.
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loose5682 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 22, 2004, 02:02:54 AM »

Though it's not Track, I will have to second that (literally as I have 2 of them) about the Silver Streak Pearl. Ball is very versatile, drilled strong it can handle heavier mediums, drilled weak with polish it's VERY skid/flip.
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tenpinspro · « **Reply #10 on:** June 22, 2004, 05:39:29 AM »

Hey BTX,

Sorry, just realized your Money was polished. I also threw mine like this for a while and it did turn it into a med/med to med lite oil ball. I still think a Havoc(resin, not particle) polished up will help get you what you want. Polishing this solid will get you thru the heads cleanly(I've thrown it this way also) and have a continuous arc motion on the back. Your other option is to go with either the SSP, CrunchTime or Crash but make sure they are laid out for arc because any one of these can and will have a stronger finish then your Hammer if you let it, which then puts you back at the O/U look. The last 3 balls mentioned are much stronger on the backend by nature then your Hammer. Hope this helps...
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Ten Pins Pro Shop
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Sir Track · « **Reply #11 on:** June 22, 2004, 06:33:13 AM »

The new Sheer Havoc is pretty flippy on the backend also.
A really great ball. A totally different ball
than the first.
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btx · « **Reply #12 on:** June 22, 2004, 10:08:51 AM »

Oops sorry Ric,

Forgot to update my profile, I took shine out again from my money as I like it better dull. I tried to polish coz i thought i will get what im lookin for but didnt like the reaction that much.

Ill tell my proshop guy what you guys recomended and probably decide last minute. Right now im leaning at crunchtime or havoc. Thanks for your input guys youre the best.....

C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #13 on:** June 27, 2004, 01:09:06 AM »

btx

Rick's suggestion of the Havoc is not very far fetched. I have a Havoc with the MB left of the thumb...the pin is in a strong position and it still gets down the lane really well before making its move. I would say go with the pin high, such as above your ring finger or even the bridge, and place the MB left of your thumb hole. Throw a little magic shine on it and it could be a very good skid flip ball.

I like my CrunchTime for that kind of reaction though. ALSO, as someone stated earlier, the Sheer Havoc is not bad either.

goodluck,
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