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Oskuposer

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Why no Sym cores?
« on: January 06, 2009, 11:11:35 PM »
I was just curious as to why there is not a single symetrical core in tracks current line up?
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charlest

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Re: Why no Sym cores?
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2009, 12:50:35 PM »
They're supposed to be an advanced concept/design bowling ball company. Asymmetric cores are the latest and greatest ... I guess.

FYI the mass bias strength on the Temper and the Tantrum are technically small enough that the MB can be ignored or just use it as an extension of the CG when using angles for drillings.

For many practical purposes, symmetric cores become asymmetric innature with some degree of mass bias strength, when the core is manipulated and affected by weight holes. Certain weight holes, like that in the Rico drilling, are intended to affect the core and it does change the dynamics of the core and the ball's reaction. The weight holes' primary intention is NOT to remove side or thumb or top weight but to change the shape of the core.


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Re: Why no Sym cores?
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2009, 12:54:50 PM »
What Charlest said above but add the Kinetic line to that answer, great stuff of what I have.

Oskuposer

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Re: Why no Sym cores?
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2009, 05:37:10 AM »
I know about core dynamics charlest.  I was just wondering because i have a friend who is a regional staffer with track and after being with hammer for years is having a hard time finding layouts that work.  Just by putting holes in a sym ball you can make it asym. Vice Versa.
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tdub36tjt

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Re: Why no Sym cores?
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2009, 01:50:53 PM »
I think they are trying to keep the symetrical cores in Columbia and the assymetrical cores in the Tracks from what I see. It is weird though, you would think they would mix them but to me it seems like they want Columbia and Track to kinda blend each other. Track more angular and Columbia more smooth off the breakpoint.

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Re: Why no Sym cores?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2009, 05:00:40 PM »
If you think about the statement "Evolutionary/Revolutionary", it truly represents what Track is all about. We are a company that is continuting to push the envelope in technology and engineering of our equipment. Just look at the Megatron core in the Rising Series. The Rising S.E. has an Intermediate Diff of .035. It's the Strongest Mass Bias Ball in the Industry.

Look at BMW, They have the Ultimate Driving Machine, Well Track has the Ultimate Bowling Machine. This is how we will proceed and it will not include Symetrical Cores, and will not include low end performance balls. We are the leading edge, technologically based brand that will produce Mid-Performance, Upper Mid-Performance, and High Perforamnce balls.

FIG is developing a brand that is really, really good. Think back about a year and half ago when everyone was in an uproar about Ebonite buying Track and Columbia. We all said just give it a chance and see what will be coming. The response to our equipment has been fantastic and is growing quickly. I can't to get back to Hopkinsville next month and see what is coming in the future.
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charlest

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Re: Why no Sym cores?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2009, 08:07:16 PM »
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I know about core dynamics charlest.  I was just wondering because i have a friend who is a regional staffer with track and after being with hammer for years is having a hard time finding layouts that work.  Just by putting holes in a sym ball you can make it asym. Vice Versa.
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No offense intended, Kiall. Just making a point. They're not all asymmetric cores, which I still believe is a crutch, not a performance ehancment. I'm none too happy about it either. But it is what it is.

Just as symmetric cores can be made into asymmetric, so too, can asymmetric cores be made to emulate symmetric ones.

I believe current Track philosophy views asymmetric cores as a path made by for the Track user by the previous Track designers and it is something that needs to be maintained. I think they see it as an positive inheritance.
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Re: Why no Sym cores?
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2009, 08:17:13 PM »
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The Rising S.E. has an Intermediate Diff of .035. It's the Strongest Mass Bias Ball in the Industry.





im sorry.  but doesnt the the N'Tense LevRg has a MB of .036 technically making it stronger?
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Re: Why no Sym cores?
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2009, 08:33:41 PM »
Ntense - .036
Nsane - .035
Rising SE - .035
LevRG - .033
Up Rising - .032

Oskuposer

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Re: Why no Sym cores?
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2009, 06:20:48 AM »
Mo pinel is INSANE when it comes to cores he is so knowledgeable its scary.
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