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chitown

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will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« on: November 22, 2008, 03:59:11 AM »
do you think Ebonite will bring back any of Tracks old cores?  I would love to see the Animal core in a newer reactive coverstock.
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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2008, 12:05:53 PM »
That is a very good question.  However, I do not see it happening though stranger things have happened.  Not sure if Ebonite would ever consider a "mix/match" type of thing.  Never know though it is an interesting idea.
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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2008, 12:22:41 PM »
Someone commented on that a short while ago. I think the gist of it was no, at least for the Animal and Machine tyye of cores, mostly because they were too complex and would take too much time to set up on the assmbly line, with a potentially high rate of errors.

But I see no reason why simpler cores like the Heat and the Equation couldn't be used.

However, I believe the new Track team is more concerned about matching cores to their new Ebonite-sourced coverstocks. All the cores seem relatively simple and all the coverstock are all so strong.
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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2008, 08:02:13 PM »
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do you think Ebonite will bring back any of Tracks old cores?  I would love to see the Animal core in a newer reactive coverstock.



I hope so CHI..

I got an old Ebonite Vortex Trimax I, the very first Trimax. It split on a even circumference until it met. It was a hell of a ball, Ive been trying to match the drilling with a subsitute newer Ebonite for the past five years....Nothing comes close, not the NV`s (havent tried the COMPLETE yet) or Smashtime, Raid, ect...

Anybody have any suggestions?

Earl

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I would try the playmaker, gamebreacker, or the pinslasher. All have the same core as the vortex however each offers a change in reaction from the differences is the covers.
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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2008, 08:22:25 PM »
As long as you clean and take care of the proper cleaning every ball will last.  Dead ball theory does not exsist.  Its dead head bowler not cleaning the ball after every use.
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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2008, 11:31:34 AM »
i would like to see a new cover go with the old Blue Triton core. that nugget was awesome!!
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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2008, 12:03:52 PM »
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As long as you clean and take care of the proper cleaning every ball will last.  Dead ball theory does not exsist.  Its dead head bowler not cleaning the ball after every use.
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Cleaning the ball after every use is a waste of time in my opinion.  I understand wanting to get scuff marks off the ball and what not but to spend money on ball cleaner is a waste!

The only way to get the oil out of the cover is to use a revivor or hot water bath method.  Both work great and will restore most of any bowling balls reaction!

I used to waste money on ball cleaner.  Ball cleaner will just not xtract oil from the cover.  A simple hot water bath works wonders!  I would rather spend a couple min placing a ball into a bucket under my bath tub faucet and running the water for 15 min.  Much cheaper than ball cleaner and works 100 times better!
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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2008, 08:53:46 PM »
If it is a waste of your time, then keep wasting your money buying a new ball every 3-4 months.  Lets see, $6 for cleaner or $200 for a new ball, you do the math.  If done after every use and with the correct stuff, it works.  Ask Ron Hickland and Figs.
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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2008, 08:58:54 PM »
I wouldn't count on it. Did Ebonite aquire rights to the old Track cores in the merger? I wouldn't mind seeing a couple balls come out with the Machine core in them.
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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2008, 07:16:30 AM »
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If it is a waste of your time, then keep wasting your money buying a new ball every 3-4 months.  Lets see, $6 for cleaner or $200 for a new ball, you do the math.  If done after every use and with the correct stuff, it works.  Ask Ron Hickland and Figs.
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What?  Buy a new ball every 3 to 4 months? lmao!

WRONG!

I use the hot water bath method to xtract oil from the coverstock on all my equipment.  I use the hot water bath method every 50 to 100 games.  This method really removes oil from the coverstock unlike ball cleaner!

I spent money on ball cleaner for years and used it religously!  Guess what? the bowling balls still lost reaction and the only way to get that lost reaction back was to xtract the oil from the cover!  Ball cleaners do not xtract oil from the coverstocks like the HOT WATER BATH method or the use of a REVIVOR!

Keep wasting your money on ball cleaner!



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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2008, 06:18:02 PM »
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I wouldn't count on it. Did Ebonite aquire rights to the old Track cores in the merger? I wouldn't mind seeing a couple balls come out with the Machine core in them.
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I would imagine they did since the NoiZe has an old Columbia core.
The reason you will not see many "retro" weightblocks is because they were multidensity weight blocks which means they were made up of more than one part placed together. You can achieve the same core numbers using a single density block which has a much lower scrap percentage and less chance of separation or cracking after the fact which leads to less warranty issues.
You can't alter science, a seven piece weight blocks with 2.48 rg, .56 diff, and .020 int diff will have the same effect on the ball as a single density one piece block with the same core numbers.








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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2008, 06:20:32 PM »
The best oil extraction method is prevention. Wipe your ball with a microfiber towel between every shot and the oil that is on your ball doesn't go in your ball. Then, using a cleaner after your session before the ball goes in the bag will help as well. This won't prevent the need for any other extraction methods down the road but if you keep the cover free of oil, there is less oil to get in the pores which results in less oil to extract which increases ball life.
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chitown

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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2008, 03:48:37 PM »
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The best oil extraction method is prevention. Wipe your ball with a microfiber towel between every shot and the oil that is on your ball doesn't go in your ball. Then, using a cleaner after your session before the ball goes in the bag will help as well. This won't prevent the need for any other extraction methods down the road but if you keep the cover free of oil, there is less oil to get in the pores which results in less oil to extract which increases ball life.
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WRONG!

The balls coverstock absorbs oil as it's rolling down the lane.  When you get the ball from the return, oil has already been absorbed into the coverstock.  Your not going to be able to prevent oil from being absorbed into the coverstock.  It's not going to happen!

Ball cleaner is not going to xtract oil from the coverstock!  It's just not true!

There are a couple of GREAT ways to remove oil from a coverstock and return a balls like new reaction!  Bowling balls can last a really long time using oil xtraction methods!

Invest in a large bucket and some towels.  Don't keep wasting money on ball cleaner!  

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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2008, 03:50:15 PM »
Black Magic Rejuvenator extracts oil.  Probaly the best on the market at extracting oil from a bowling ball.
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Re: will ebonite bring back and old track cores?
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2008, 04:05:15 PM »
Acetone works wonders too!
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