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hotshot187

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WMB VS GP2
« on: March 31, 2005, 04:25:31 AM »
Hey guys i'm kind of debating which one I should get.  Currently I am using my Aggresive for the med 2 heavy lane conditions and my Angular for medium and really don't have a true heavy oil ball.  I know both of these balls are capable of handling heavy oil, but the GP2 I know could probably handle a bit more.  Where I am I really don't see HEAVY, HEAVY so I was kinda leaning toward the WMB cause I think the GP2 might be a bit overkill. I also heard with the WMB I would have to probably play a tighter line in oil which is something i really dont want to do. I want a swinging out type of ball.  Have u heard this? What u guys think?


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Doug

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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2005, 12:52:24 PM »
Doug,

The GP2 is definately stronger. I have made mention a few times about a friend of mine having both of them, the GP2 is probably 8 boards stronger. This is not exageration. Basically the same layout and surface prep. The GP2 offered an earlier roll and more backend. His scores immediately went up with it.

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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2005, 01:01:01 PM »
Doug,

It would be an easy choice...GP2.  With the GP2, you could play any line in oil and it will come back hard.  Plus, it is easier to maintain than the WMB (I've heard too many horror stories about the WMB to make me not want the WMB).  You can get the right reaction with the GP2 by letting your Pro Shop know your ball speed and the type of reaction you are looking for.

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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2005, 01:28:17 PM »
Agreed!

GP2 all the way...my 2nd one...threw 5 practice balls with it and shot 813 in league right off the press.

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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2005, 01:32:03 PM »
Thanks guys for all the comments I appreciete it.

Doug

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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2005, 01:35:58 PM »
if you want to swingout the ball in heavy oil gp2 would be better suited.  but wmb definitely has more backend pop and carry (from what i've seen).

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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2005, 02:11:27 PM »
Hey Doug,

I bowled against a guy a few weeks back who threw his WMB and I had my GP2.  He actually had a little more turn than I do but my GP2 was still able to out hook his on the same shot.  I'd honestly have to say that the GP2 is the strongest ball out on the market to date.
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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2005, 11:04:47 PM »
Nice I think the GP2 is the way 2 go then.

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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2005, 11:29:42 PM »
You can't go wrong with either ball, however, I will say this: The WMB is much more versatile in terms of layoutability and conditions playable than the gp2. The gp2 is a flat out oiler, even the ones I've seen drill for length are still complete and utter oilers. The WMB likes to be ROLLED (I.E. straighter lines to the pocket, picks up a heavier roll) whereas the gp2 likes to be TURNED (the people who look real good with this ball are all tweener and above).
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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2005, 08:34:12 AM »
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The WMB is much more versatile in terms of layoutability and conditions playable than the gp2


Please explain this.  Both are very strong assymetrical balls so they are both are going to be equally versatile in terms of layout options.  I've made the GP2 go sideways on friction and also dead roll.

I don't know the exact particle loads, but assume they are the same, the GP2 has a higher RG so it can cover a wider range of oil/medium-oilys because it will not burn as quickly.  I've seen quite a few WMBs in my leagues and as the heads go, the WMB can't chase the oil line because it just burns up.  The GP2 recovery allows bowlers to  to just follow the oil in as deep as 5th arrow.  The GP2 takes a polish very well, and thus allows it to be played on mediums.  I don't know how well the WMB polishes as I haven't seen any.  Also, why would a ball as you say that likes straighter lines be more versatile?
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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2005, 08:55:20 AM »
Anthony...

the "straighter lines" comment came from someone talking about a "heavy oil" situation and has been blown out of proportion......
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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2005, 10:15:38 AM »
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You can't go wrong with either ball, however, I will say this: The WMB is much more versatile in terms of layoutability and conditions playable than the gp2. The gp2 is a flat out oiler,  


Stanski, what you said is not true for everyone. I have the GP2 with Pin under RF 4" from PAP and MB 5" from PAP and I can play it from medium oil and on up.
It all depends on the bowlers style as to where this ball is playable. You can read my profile to see my style if you want.

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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2005, 02:31:58 PM »
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You can't go wrong with either ball, however, I will say this: The WMB is much more versatile in terms of layoutability and conditions playable than the gp2. The gp2 is a flat out oiler,  


Stanski, what you said is not true for everyone. I have the GP2 with Pin under RF 4" from PAP and MB 5" from PAP and I can play it from medium oil and on up.
It all depends on the bowlers style as to where this ball is playable. You can read my profile to see my style if you want.

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I'm not saying that it will not work for a certain style, I just mentioned that the ones I have seen have the most success with the ball have all been ones with higher speed/higher revs. The Wmb, however, has looked good in the hands of lower ended players, and not so good in the hands of people trying to swing the lane.

Achappy, I find the opposite to be true about the wmb. The cover on it is very unique, it is a high load particle yes, but it does not roll like many high load particles. I've seen this ball able to play on even some of the lighter patterns that I have seen BOX CONDITION. 500 grit on a lighter oil pattern even surprises me.

With the gp2, I have never seen this ball able to carry/able to play on anything less than heavy oil. The ball just looks bad when you get to on more of a medium pattern. I have never seen a gp2 that worked well for the medium houses around here.


Seems to me that many on this board (Track) are obviously biased, and seem to be very judgemental about which ball will perform your task. I think either will be a good choice, but some here have mentioned coverstock problems (which there haven't been any), not hooking enough in oil, and even exageration on how much the gp2 can improve scores. It seems that every product track comes out with is EXTREMELY praised in this forum, whereas I don't see them as any better a ball manufacturer than any other company out there.

Like I said, you can't go wrong with either ball, both will work for the condition you're looking at with the right drill pattern, surface condition, and style.

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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2005, 02:47:11 PM »
After having seen both of them thrown by The Author from here,and talking with him,he prefers the WMB and the Shock and Awe he just got. This is straight from the source,not an observation.
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Re: WMB VS GP2
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2005, 03:16:24 PM »
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With the gp2, I have never seen this ball able to carry/able to play on anything less than heavy oil. The ball just looks bad when you get to on more of a medium pattern. I have never seen a gp2 that worked well for the medium houses around here.

 

Strange because it works here on those conditions. Maybe what you are refering to as mediem oil is in reality, light oil.
 
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Seems to me that many on this board (Track) are obviously biased, and seem to be very judgemental about which ball will perform your task


It may seem that way to you, but it doesn't seem that way to me. If you want to talk about people that are biased, go to the Brunswick form and listen to all of the talk about the Brunswick balls, Brunswick Nation, and etc. As for myself, I only own one Track ball, one Storm, and two Brunswicks, so I don't "crow" Track is best, but I do support a Track ball if I see the Track ball as the better ball when comparing balls such as this case.
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