if you're thinking of dulling an xecption, why not just drill a rule? However, if you are intent on drilling an xcetpion, i would put the pin next to the ring finger, and the mass bias by the thumb..if you were looking at a track drillsheet, it would be pin between #2 and 3, and mass bias #2. I have 2 xceptions, and one drilled like this starts up alot sooner, with alot more overall hook than the other (pin on bridge, mass bias out farther, between positions 2 and 3. That one gets down the lane easier, farther, with a snapper move on the backend. hope this helps.
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The great one-

I'm hesitant to drill a Rule because of the strength of the coverstock.  I'm guessing that the Xception's pearlized GOO-LS slightly dulled will be more controllable and a little less early hook than the Rule's solid GOO polished.

I like the sounds of your first suggested drilling.  The second one would probably be too flippy and/or have too much length for the longer patterns.

Rick-

I was hoping you would be one of the ones to reply!  I've been reading the forums on this site for several months and you, along with several others, ("The Crew"), seem very knowledgeable...certainly moreso than myself!

My PAP is nearly 6", very little up (maybe 1/8").  I ordered another Xception for our pro shop today, asking for a longer pin-CG distance.  I'll let you know if I receive anything longer than the 3" Xception we have right now.  My span is  4.75" to my middle finger, 4.87" to my ring finger.  It sounds like you're suggesting I put the pin right of the center of my ring finger...where would you put the MB?

In regards to the FAZ/DZ.....my DZ has a 3.25" pin, pin under ring, CG .5" right of midline and about .5" under midline.  It gets through the heads well on the longer patterns, nice strong arc at the breakpoint, but doesn't carry well...lots of 10's.  It doesn't really roll out....probably just not enough angle and continuation.

I've heard good things about the FAZ.  I really like my CT on drier backends; the carry is excellent.  The place I bowl my leagues at usually has a ton of carrydown, so I don't use it there.  I might try the FAZ down the road.

Once again, thanks for your replies and any further input I receive will be appreciated!
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EXCALIBER-

I've looked over the posts you've made on the Xception, along with your reply on this topic...I'm assuming this is Ball #2 that you're referring to in your reply?  If so, does this have a weight hole, or was the CG kicked left of the Pin-MB line on your ball?  We have one in our pro shop with the CG kicked right between 1.5 and 2", so if it was drilled for a left-hander, you could put the pin alongside your ring finger with the MB out towards your VAL and probably not need an extra hole.

By the way...I don't drill my own equipment and I'm not totally sure of all of the "technical terms" associated with drilling, so if I've said something that doesn't make any sense, don't be afraid to correct me!

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O-Zone, I would recommend the FAZ for the longer patterns. I like the exception but I have more success with the FAZ on B and D patterns. I have two, one drilled 5 1/4" by 2 1/2 pin above bridge with hole at 4 1/2 inches and one drilled 5 1/2 by 3 1/2 with small hole at 4" pin below middle finger.

The one below middle finger is very smooth and works early with a light scuff. I used this a lot in the early games last week at the RPI in Reno and on the A pattern on the weekend. The one above the bridge is stronger and works exceptionally well when you have to get inside of 20. It still reads the midlane well but has more hit and carries extremely well. I used this the last 5 games every day and led the tournament. The first time I used it on B I shot 300 my third game and I have been VERY impressed with it.

My rev rate it around 470 so if yours is less you may want to move the pin a little right to under you ring finger and above your ring finger with the CG to the right an inch and a half on under and 2 1/2 for the one over to make sure they read the middles real well.

I hope this helps.


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Hi Jeff
I really don't agree with the choices here. I ran a PBA league last season and we did the strip /oil to PBA specs. We bowled in 3 different houses. One with brand new AMF synthetics, one on Guardian (Sunset in Albany) you have probably been there, and older wood (Bowlers Club)(Empire State Open). I do not have a lot of rev's either and my choice of ball for Pattern "B" was a 600 sanded Freak Out. Worked very well. Good length and read. The ball has to get back hard and you can't hit the OOB. The Phenom Unleashed, I believe, would be an even better choice. We can't just look to new equipment every time as an answer. The Unleashed is probably the best choice because of its great length and great recovery. B is for boomers and I do not believe that an X-ception would be a good ball of choice for 'B' or 'C' especially here in the Northeast with so many older wooden lanes. Lots of quick transitions.

Pattern C puts you throwing around 13 or 14 and you still need a controlled recovery and I thing the X-ception would be to weak for this. An Animal Untamed with a little polish drilled with the pin above the fingers or a Sheer Havoc would be much better choices for pattern 'C'. However, for patterns 'A', 'D', and 'E' the X-ception would be a good choice. For pattern 'E' though you would have to drill one to do very long. I have a Mojo that I keep just for pattern 'A'. I hope this helps.

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Edited on 12/21/2004 0:49 AM

Hey Jeff,

I'd take a good look at what Lanebed wrote.  I also like his recommendation of the Unleashed for a little more ball strength as my Unleashed has always offered me that as well.  I think the main difference I'd say between the Xception and the Unleashed is your choice of what you want off the dry backs.  If you need a little more finish, the Xception should provide that (being resin) and the Unleashed should read the lane just a little earlier for a smoother backend reaction in comparison but still strong.

I'm suggesting the Xception because I know it's stronger then the balls you currently have and it was a ball of interest to you.  Since Lanebed is there and has seen those shots on those surfaces, his evaluation should be taken to heart.  Feel free to give your thoughts and bounce around more ideas/questions as necessary, this is what we're here for.

Thanks for the great input Chuck.
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