Author Topic: trying to figure out finances for usbc's (Read 1998 times)

benjonesonbass · « **on:** April 01, 2009, 07:19:05 PM »

ok...so i see all of this cool stuff to do during nationals. just wondering...is this stuff (brackets, side tourneys, ball company booths) hella spendy @ this tourney or pretty reasonable? this will be my 1st trip to nationals and i'm trying to figure out how much $$$ to expect to spend. keep in mind, i'm only talking about bowling related stuff...my room/food/travel expenses aren't a factor. any info is helpful. thanks.
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shipper50 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 02, 2009, 07:33:13 AM »

My suggestion is take into account how many brackets you want to get into. There are $5 and $10. Then if your really good, there is the clean stuff, like 30,90 clean. Then if you want a shirt then figure say $35? Towels, other stuff figure say $25-50?

You can spend $25 all the way up to $1000's if you want to play the big time in brackets.

Hope this helps,
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DanH78 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 02, 2009, 09:37:50 AM »

You can spend as much or as little on brackets and side pots as you want. They do put maximums on how many brackets you can enter, I think I figured out that if you were to max out the $5 and $10 brackets and then enter all the side pots it would run you around $3,000, that's for all three events. But, you don't need to do that, in total I spent less than $200.
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mjames1229 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 02, 2009, 12:36:41 PM »

I usually budget $200 for brackets (all scratch, and mostly the $10 brackets) in team, and about $60 to $80 each for brackets in both singles and doubles. The rational behind lowering my outlay in minors is that my lifetime ABC/USBC average is about 190, and while that is very profitable in team event, I've bowled some decent minors sets and been skunked. With only 40% of the bowlers in minors, those 180s have a higher chance of getting beaten.

I usually don't play the other pots because I think there are too many. This is my personal opinion, but my chances of going 30-clean, 1-5-9, or throwing a big score for sidepots is quite low. And if I donate to each of those prizes every year and the hopes that one time I'll get lucky... well, I'd rather keep that money each year and take the Mrs. to a nice restaurant when all the bowling is done.

With that said, I have been getting into the Century Doubles ($10 per person, per team), as a couple of the older guys on our squad are pretty good and for some reason, this sidepot is not very heavily entered. I have cashed every year that I have entered it.

I've always felt that the stuff in the equipment booths are a bit pricey, especially now as bowling season is ending and everyone knows the "new' products will be coming out soon. The thought of spending two bills on a ball - laid out by someone who does not know your game - so it can sit in your bowling bag during the summer so you can wait for fall leagues to start doesn't entice me. As for the shirts, some look pretty cool. I am one that will happily wear any sponsor shirt, but I'm not crazy about spending $50 to wear Storm on my chest. If Storm (or any other) want me to advertise for them, let them give me the shirt.

I do enjoy going into the "official" USBC store, and I always make sure I buy a polo shirt there to add to my collection (usually about $35 or $40). My wife has also gotten T-shirts for the kids there (about $15 ea) and she's gotten a couple of jackets for herself over the years. The USBC store has all the chotchkies (golf balls, spoons, bells, postcards, shotglasses, etc.) that you could ever want from a souvineer shop.

Nationals is always a vacation for my wife and I (we really can't afford two vacations - one for bowling and one not. We tried last year and felt the hurt in the fall). Although I believe in my bowling, I have to balance the time and cost of bowling with what my lovely bride wants to do when we are on vacation. This year especially, I am positive that she will want to do something like a Vegas Mob History tour ($46/person http://vegas4locals.com/couponvegasmobtour.html) instead of watching me bowl the BJI or something. Once I accepted that this is HER vacation, too, I was able to cut back my bowling spending and not feel bad about it.
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Phoneman · « **Reply #4 on:** April 02, 2009, 12:44:49 PM »

I usually heavy up in team brackets. Around $150. In minors i spend no more than $80 per event. I do get in all of the other pots just in case. Last year I hit the 30 clean pot during doubles and it paid $220 per person so it was worth the roughly $1.11 per game to get in ($10 for all 9 games)

JMORRIS · « **Reply #5 on:** April 02, 2009, 04:42:40 PM »

All-in during team is about $2300.00 this year, since they added the reverse brackets.

The bowlers I went with that went all in, got some refunds because they didn't fill all the brackets.
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benjonesonbass · « **Reply #6 on:** April 02, 2009, 11:06:01 PM »

thanks to all that replied. this information is very helpful. this is about what i budgeted so i think i'll be ok. as it is my first nationals i don't think i can afford to go 'all in' as i don't plan on spending that much for the whole trip much less brackets only! i have been a pba member since 2000 so i have just about every bowling shirt i can use ever. to pick up some souvenier type stuff for my first time is where i'll spend money. hope to see some of you there.
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jhutch769 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 03, 2009, 02:09:58 PM »

I am saving 50 per week, should have around 950 when I go, plus if I have anything left from my income tax return, and then whatever we get back from State Tournament and my leagues.. So could be close to 2000... I think I could get by out there with about 500 though...

MuncieBowler · « **Reply #8 on:** April 03, 2009, 11:47:05 PM »

Team event brackets are $5 but singles and doubles are $10. High game cost $25 which is a waist of time in my opinion. I've never bowled anything but Rotogrip tourney last year so I don't know about the other tourneys. The booths sometimes will have pretty good deals, but the closer to the end of the tourney the better the deal will be.
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Bigmike · « **Reply #9 on:** April 04, 2009, 11:29:57 AM »

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Team event brackets are $5 but singles and doubles are $10.

Actually they are $10/bracket during all of the events. They also offer optional $5 brackets during the team event only.

Someone posted earlier that the "all-in" button is $2300. That is correct as there were about 4-5 guys on our squad who "pushed" that button.

You can leave yourself broke in a hurry out there.
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jhutch769 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 04, 2009, 04:49:34 PM »

http://www.bowl.com/tournaments/usbcopen/national/sideevents.aspx

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